LeoMuse747
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NG quality with PH releases, now wouldn't that be a sight
That would be the greatest combo ever!
NG September 2024 Hints(Finally)
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That would be the greatest combo ever!
YesterAirlines
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The problem is that NG clearly don't want to listen, at least not to non-Chinese audiences. This seems to be twofold.
Firstly, I feel they have had some disappointments with releases in the past that have come from suggestions and have also been over bombarded with thousands of requests. They don't know what a good release choice is anymore and have blanked out the noise. Certainly, the relationship they attempted to build with Western collectors has largely been discarded.
Secondly, the leadership at NG clearly doesn't rate anything that isn't ultra-modern and also doesn't understand Western markets, which makes it a challenge to get releases 'right' in an interesting way. I have heard several times that NG has got multiple stakeholders, and this is maybe partly why they seem to be undertaking such a scattergun approach doing everything all at once. There is no one voice.
Part of the issue is also that they remain very secretive. Without understanding things like their MOQ it is hard to give good suggestions. I still communicate with them, but they are not open with me the way they used to be and a lot of what they have said to me hasn't come to pass. I don't think that is malicious, but it is symptomatic of the points above.
The result is a spiral of odd model decisions and costly undertakings, which appear to have led to financial problems that have slowed down everything and just annoy collectors more. In some ways I do think collectors have contributed to at least poisoning the golden goose, but ultimately NG has done a lot of this to itself.
It also appears, as others have said, that the 'Year of Classics' was never intended to be anything but an internal Chinese message discussing Chinese models.
My disappointment is palpable with all of this, but they don't seem to want my, or anyone else's, help so all we can do is look on.
Firstly, I feel they have had some disappointments with releases in the past that have come from suggestions and have also been over bombarded with thousands of requests. They don't know what a good release choice is anymore and have blanked out the noise. Certainly, the relationship they attempted to build with Western collectors has largely been discarded.
Secondly, the leadership at NG clearly doesn't rate anything that isn't ultra-modern and also doesn't understand Western markets, which makes it a challenge to get releases 'right' in an interesting way. I have heard several times that NG has got multiple stakeholders, and this is maybe partly why they seem to be undertaking such a scattergun approach doing everything all at once. There is no one voice.
Part of the issue is also that they remain very secretive. Without understanding things like their MOQ it is hard to give good suggestions. I still communicate with them, but they are not open with me the way they used to be and a lot of what they have said to me hasn't come to pass. I don't think that is malicious, but it is symptomatic of the points above.
The result is a spiral of odd model decisions and costly undertakings, which appear to have led to financial problems that have slowed down everything and just annoy collectors more. In some ways I do think collectors have contributed to at least poisoning the golden goose, but ultimately NG has done a lot of this to itself.
It also appears, as others have said, that the 'Year of Classics' was never intended to be anything but an internal Chinese message discussing Chinese models.
My disappointment is palpable with all of this, but they don't seem to want my, or anyone else's, help so all we can do is look on.
pons399
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Yeah, NG clearly has no clue about anything not Chinese. They probably fill half their release slots with oft-requested Chinese stuff, and stick anything "famous" that comes to mind into the rest, without giving it much thought. Hence the dominance of US/ME regs, shafted APAC airlines, lack of classics etc.
It seems like investors also demanded unreasonably fast expansion. NG thus developed a slew of new moulds and gimmicks to set themselves apart (CRP, Ultimate Collection). This stretched their resources too thin, leading to declining quality, delays, late CRP stuff etc. Less revenue from delays + sunk cost developing moulds and gimmicks -> financial troubles. Sometimes it's smarter to stick to the basics.
AustrianCollector
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Come to think of it, the last 747SP they announced was an Air China one.
LeoMuse747
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What happened to the old researchers of NG? Back in the days of the very obscure and intricate releases of Boeing 757s.
There used to be a wide variety of liveries, classic and modern, many hybrids and short-lived schemes, airlines from small countries, etc.
NG was able to impress and that suddenly came to a halt. Too bad the leadership changed.
There used to be a wide variety of liveries, classic and modern, many hybrids and short-lived schemes, airlines from small countries, etc.
NG was able to impress and that suddenly came to a halt. Too bad the leadership changed.
nb.aviation
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New Releases for September 1:400
24019 China Southern Airlines C919 B-919J(1st C919 for CZ (officially released by CSAIR))(2024.09)
19018 Air China C919 B-919X(1st C919 for CA)(2024.09)
13081 Aegean Airlines A321neo SX-NAH(2024.09)
39057 Sichuan Airlines A350-900 B-306N(Panda Route)(ULTIMATE)(2024.09)
39080 Sichuan Airlines A350-900 B-306N(Panda Route)(2024.09)
39*** Delta Air Lines A350-900 N522DZ(LA28)(2024.09)
39*** Delta Air Lines A350-900 N522DZ(LA28)(ULTIMATE)(2024.09)
39*** Em**** A350-900 A6-E**(2024.09)
58223 China United Airlines 737-800/w B-7563(City of Wenzhou)(ULTIMATE)(2024.09)
58233 China Eastern Airlines 737-800/w B-1789(Yunnan Peacock (orange) cs; new tail logo)(2024.09)
58235 China Eastern Airlines 737-800/w B-1790(Yunnan Peacock (orange) cs; new tail logo)(2024.09)
58238 Southwest Airlines 737-800/w N8681M(new Triple Crown One c/s; with scimitar winglets)(2024.09)
88032 Flair Airlines(Bonza Airline) 737 MAX 8 C-FLKC(hybrid livery)(2024.09)
88033 American Airlines 737 MAX 8 N338RS(2024.09)
88037 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N37318(Blue Evolution c/s)(2024.09)
88039 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N77259(Connecting the world. Ensuring a better future. sticker)(2024.09)
88040 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N27261(United Together)(2024.09)
88041 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N27255(Aviate sticker)(2024.09)
78027 Lufthansa 747-8 D-ABYA(n/c)(2024.09)
78028 Lufthansa 747-8 D-ABYC(n/c)(2024.09)
78033 Lufthansa 747-8 D-ABYA(TEAM D)(2024.09)
78025 United Parcel Service - UPS 747-8F N633UP(Celebrating The Queen Of The Skies sticker)(2024.09)
78026 United Parcel Service - UPS 747-8F N605UP(with "Spirit of Joe Sutter" Sticker)(2024.09)
73045 Malaysia Airlines 777-300 9M-MSA(2024.09)
73057 Air Canada 777-300ER C-FITW(Go Canada Go(2024 colors))(2024.09)
59010 Qatar Airways 787-8 Dreamliner A7-BCE(with "FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022" sticker)(2024.09)
59011 Qatar Airways 787-8 Dreamliner A7-BCB(with 25th anniversary sticker)(2024.09)
18000 Blank Model 767-400ER N/A(CF6 engines)(2024.09)
67000 Blank Model A330-800 N/A(2024.09)
68000 Blank Model A330-900 N/A(2024.09)
78007 Blank Model 747-8 N/A(2024.09)
78008 Blank Model 747-8F N/A(2024.09)
For Lite Edition:
SWA002 Southwest Airlines 737 MAX 8 N871HK(Desert Gold Retro; named "The Herbert D. Kelleher")(2024.09)
SWA003 Southwest Airlines 737 MAX 8 N872CB(Canyon Blue Retro)(2024.09)
QTR022 Qatar Airways 777-300ER A7-BAC(25th anniversay retro)(2024.09)
24019 China Southern Airlines C919 B-919J(1st C919 for CZ (officially released by CSAIR))(2024.09)
19018 Air China C919 B-919X(1st C919 for CA)(2024.09)
13081 Aegean Airlines A321neo SX-NAH(2024.09)
39057 Sichuan Airlines A350-900 B-306N(Panda Route)(ULTIMATE)(2024.09)
39080 Sichuan Airlines A350-900 B-306N(Panda Route)(2024.09)
39*** Delta Air Lines A350-900 N522DZ(LA28)(2024.09)
39*** Delta Air Lines A350-900 N522DZ(LA28)(ULTIMATE)(2024.09)
39*** Em**** A350-900 A6-E**(2024.09)
58223 China United Airlines 737-800/w B-7563(City of Wenzhou)(ULTIMATE)(2024.09)
58233 China Eastern Airlines 737-800/w B-1789(Yunnan Peacock (orange) cs; new tail logo)(2024.09)
58235 China Eastern Airlines 737-800/w B-1790(Yunnan Peacock (orange) cs; new tail logo)(2024.09)
58238 Southwest Airlines 737-800/w N8681M(new Triple Crown One c/s; with scimitar winglets)(2024.09)
88032 Flair Airlines(Bonza Airline) 737 MAX 8 C-FLKC(hybrid livery)(2024.09)
88033 American Airlines 737 MAX 8 N338RS(2024.09)
88037 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N37318(Blue Evolution c/s)(2024.09)
88039 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N77259(Connecting the world. Ensuring a better future. sticker)(2024.09)
88040 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N27261(United Together)(2024.09)
88041 United Airlines 737 MAX 8 N27255(Aviate sticker)(2024.09)
78027 Lufthansa 747-8 D-ABYA(n/c)(2024.09)
78028 Lufthansa 747-8 D-ABYC(n/c)(2024.09)
78033 Lufthansa 747-8 D-ABYA(TEAM D)(2024.09)
78025 United Parcel Service - UPS 747-8F N633UP(Celebrating The Queen Of The Skies sticker)(2024.09)
78026 United Parcel Service - UPS 747-8F N605UP(with "Spirit of Joe Sutter" Sticker)(2024.09)
73045 Malaysia Airlines 777-300 9M-MSA(2024.09)
73057 Air Canada 777-300ER C-FITW(Go Canada Go(2024 colors))(2024.09)
59010 Qatar Airways 787-8 Dreamliner A7-BCE(with "FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022" sticker)(2024.09)
59011 Qatar Airways 787-8 Dreamliner A7-BCB(with 25th anniversary sticker)(2024.09)
18000 Blank Model 767-400ER N/A(CF6 engines)(2024.09)
67000 Blank Model A330-800 N/A(2024.09)
68000 Blank Model A330-900 N/A(2024.09)
78007 Blank Model 747-8 N/A(2024.09)
78008 Blank Model 747-8F N/A(2024.09)
For Lite Edition:
SWA002 Southwest Airlines 737 MAX 8 N871HK(Desert Gold Retro; named "The Herbert D. Kelleher")(2024.09)
SWA003 Southwest Airlines 737 MAX 8 N872CB(Canyon Blue Retro)(2024.09)
QTR022 Qatar Airways 777-300ER A7-BAC(25th anniversay retro)(2024.09)
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777-300ER
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I hope they will make the difference between D-ABYA and YC. Also, where is the Canadian 737-8 MAX? Please tell me it is an Air Canada
OscarBravo992
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Meh... That about sums it up actually, pretty meh. Maybe I'll get the EK and Sichuan A350s.
It's a Bonza and Flair "Flonza" hybrid.
777-300ER
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planes_on_a_shelf
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I agree - right now both are labelled as (n/c) which would be problematic?
For the Team D Olympic sticker, D-ABYA would need to be in the darker 'new' scheme, with the smaller tail logo, afaik?
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planes_on_a_shelf
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Yeah I'll be getting B-306N too -along with the LA28 & if the D-ABYA has the right darker blue and smaller tail logo
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pons399
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3 LH 748s and still no Fanhansa, so that's reserved for next month. That's 7 LHs and 4 ACs.
Given how repetitive NG's 748 releases are, surely it's logical they release all of the following: HL7644 Ultimate, HL7630 special livery, random HL 748 with Visit KR sticker... Right!?
Given how repetitive NG's 748 releases are, surely it's logical they release all of the following: HL7644 Ultimate, HL7630 special livery, random HL 748 with Visit KR sticker... Right!?
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LeoMuse747
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was this one a typo? 9M-MSA is a B737-800. Malaysia also never operated the 777-300.
9M-MRA is the B777-200ER they had.
OscarBravo992
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pons399
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Couldn't spare that slot for a real SQ 773, eh?
LeoMuse747
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Phantom
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Of course not. But they caught the welcome panel.
But I'm happy about that blank 748F.
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