aviation456
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I guess they brought too many new moulds into this scale but also 200 scale at once. Might have been too draining on their finances, especially as I'd expect profit margins to be extremely thin in a hobby like this..
NG Models August 2024 Hints
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Travertineeye
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You can have my JC Cathay Pacific. I’m retiring it
Travertineeye
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Other operators of the 737-900 include
Oman Air
El Al
Royal Air Maroc
Jin Air
Batik
Ukraine International
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Oman Air
El Al
Royal Air Maroc
Jin Air
Batik
Ukraine International
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Entitlement? Sorry but no. These feelings stem from prior positive experiences with NG and their previous marketing which generated the hype. If they truly were struggling, wouldn't the first thing be to drop the rewards program? If anything, people are buying more and more of other brands or have never necessarily ditched the other brands to begin with. If anything, it's entitlement to believe otherwise, that NG has everyone on their leash as you are suggesting. Perhaps it's that sense of entitlement that creates the stubbornness we are seeing with NG's refusal to listen to customer feedback now as opposed to before. The 'NG has the best moulds so quit whining' argument is starting to become old and repetitive, and is the exact mentality that would enable such lack of consideration for their customers, granted it's not a financial issue as you suggest (I still don't believe so...if penny pinching equated to neglecting releases from other regions, why again continue with the rewards program and why make 3-4 releases of the same airline with the same aircraft type minus a different reg or sticker). Remember, this is an international hobby at heart.
I also suspect the current trend we're seeing has to do with a change in leadership plus their recent social media hit where the deletion of their Instagram page effectively stopped any global marketing incentives they had going, creating a 'screw it, let's just do us,' moment. No doubt they took a lot of pride in their social media, and the loss of it was a huge hit to their marketing department. Notice ever since the shakeup, their previous promise to make 2024 the year of the classics has effectively been buried under the rug. All these factors combined, we see month after month of B and N regs.
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YesterAirlines
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So basically you are saying they are victims of their own success. Because they were previously so attentive and created an expectation they must continue to perform for collectors? This has been an ongoing issue for ages. Collectors think NG should perform for them like they owe them some debt, when in fact they do not. That is entitlement.
Not necessarily no. After all that would a) admit there were issues and b) not save them a lot of money now they're past the setup costs and are seemingly shifting unsold stock they can't sell anyway.
I haven't seen any evidence of that but what I have seen is that NG has been spending a lot more than any other brand has on r&d.
There are several people on this forum alone who say they don't buy other brands like JC and practically only buy NG. There are plenty who say they have started collecting again thanks to NG. I didn't say NG had people on their leash but the very reaction to the NG hints which is always far stronger than it is for other brands really suggests that they do to some degree.
Clearly releases from the US and China sell well. That much is obvious.
Making 3 or 4 releases of the same airline with the same aircraft type with minor differences is a good cost-cutting measure as you can split the release volumes. I dont think they've done it sensibly but it is exactly the sort of thing you'd do more if you were struggling for cash.
I would also say that the paragraph you've written above is exactly the sort of entitlement I am talking about. 'NG's refusal to listen to customer feedback'? They listen far more than any other brand does and have had a massively greater consideration for customers than anyone else.
I would argue that if the 'year of classics' has been forgotten (and I don't think it has but clearly it is delayed) it is because they simply can't afford it anymore. NG have spent way too much money on making new moulds, ultimate collection boxes, CRP and other initiatives - exactly the sort of thing they have done to try and appeal to customers which they shouldn't have bothered with as it has cost them.
Basically I disagree with what you've written and I could provide plenty of background to my reasoning. Your suspicions have zero evidence to back them up - trust me, mine do not.
Agree to disagree.
Bulgogi77
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You're probably spot-on.
That would make it the 3rd time that TAM A330 has been released...
YesterAirlines
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Fair enough. I hope you're right to be honest. I much prefer your narrative to mine!
planes_on_a_shelf
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Which is nearly not enough considering:
1) there's many many livery variations
2) none have been released on modern, updated moulds - the PHX ones date from a long time ago - and they have wrong h stabs
In a way, accurate 'modern' mould TAM A330s don't exist
And it's a form of bias when one counts certain airline releases vs others - it's as if only certain airlines are legitimately allowed to be made many times over
LeoMuse747
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Exactly! Fully agreed.
I'd say having the exact same livery/aircraft/airline/registration combination released three times to be far more than enough (JC and Aeroclassics have both made it)
planes_on_a_shelf
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You're talking of the Star Alliance one?
I'm talking of all the numerous TAM schemes
Besides, JC's A330 mould is too inferior, and ACs mould / printing / details etc has its own issues - what I have mentioned in terms of a 'modern' deserving representation
You brought up many valid points too, only time will tell I suppose. Even though these latest releases may not suit everyone we can save up for future purchases!
Bulgogi77
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I'm surprised they haven't officially announced the releases yet. Usually, we would've known by now.
Lots of stuff seems to be slipping over at NG. They're biting off way more than they can chew with all the new molds, rewards program, and sheer volume of releases. Developing and implementing all of these things is very expensive, and I believe all the repetitive releases that we've been seeing are a likely sign of cutting costs through splitting the production of a specific model into small variations (e.g. a small logo, different nosecone, different registration, etc.). They're also really doubling-down on Chinese and U.S. releases. I think we'd see more variety if NG wasn't overextending themselves. NG is struggling to keep up and I'm honestly getting a little worried about their long-term health as a company if they continue in this direction. It also doesn't help that they had to start all over on Instagram. They lost tons of reach with their marketing because of that (through losing followers).
Lots of stuff seems to be slipping over at NG. They're biting off way more than they can chew with all the new molds, rewards program, and sheer volume of releases. Developing and implementing all of these things is very expensive, and I believe all the repetitive releases that we've been seeing are a likely sign of cutting costs through splitting the production of a specific model into small variations (e.g. a small logo, different nosecone, different registration, etc.). They're also really doubling-down on Chinese and U.S. releases. I think we'd see more variety if NG wasn't overextending themselves. NG is struggling to keep up and I'm honestly getting a little worried about their long-term health as a company if they continue in this direction. It also doesn't help that they had to start all over on Instagram. They lost tons of reach with their marketing because of that (through losing followers).
abdulmohiuddin
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LeoMuse747
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abdulmohiuddin
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Anyways the releases were announced on the other forum.
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