Jazajia
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Well, now I'm wondering when/if all of our collections will be deleted too...mine's still there...so far.
There is no indication that Waffle is going to delete anyone's collection. As explained before, he just "hid" the entries of the two more popular scales: 1:400 and 1:200 so that the creators of MADb cannot gather data from it.
I kinda think we all should launch a boycott on principle
On what principle exactly? Much of the data that comprises MADb came straight from DiMA. That is why Waffle is angry. The model info is public, and anyone is free to organize the data, but by taking bulk data from DiMA Waffle's work (the work that it takes to organize a huge amount of data) was effectively stolen.
There is a catch, however. As Richard pointed out, he also contributed to some of the data that comprises DiMA, so not all of the work was stolen from Waffle, Richard also took some of his own work. Also, I believe the DiMA database itself took a lot of the data from the old DAC database, which, as Richard pointed out, also included a lot of data inputted by him.
I think it is a bit of a shitty move by the MADb folks because Waffle was clearly not okay with them taking the data. Richard just rationalized his move because some of the data was part of his own work anyway, and because Waffle was not giving him anything in exchange, etc. Keep in mind that Waffle was footing the bill for the DiMA platform that Richard was using to input the data, and I believe it was Richard who offered his help in the first place (correct me if I'm wrong).
Anyway @IndyJets, I just wanted to point out that by boycotting Waffle "out of principle" for hiding some of the DiMA data, you are automatically supporting other practices that can also be classified as "unethical." If MADb wants to create a database the proper way to do it is to go ahead and compile and input all the bloody data manually, keystroke by keystroke. But hey "work smarter and not harder" is a popular saying after all
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The best thing we can do is stay out of it and enjoy whatever benefits MADb can bring to us. But if we are going to bring "principles" to the table, then it is important to shed light on what happens behind the scenes.
For the record, as problematic as it can be, DiMA is by far the best database I have seen in terms of data. Both DAC and the 400 Scale Hangar had databases at one point, but they no longer exist. The relevant brands keep their own release data anyways, and it is a pain to keep track of the more obscure releases (this is where Richard truly shines).
MADb absolutely has a place to fill in the hobby, and for that I applaud the effort. But I know that it is not built exactly on top of an Eden of roses. But then again, hardly anything is in this world.
Cheers,
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