guanyi0724
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Fernando!
NG Models 1:400 December 2025 Hints
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Timmy186GTR
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My GOAT
planes_on_a_shelf
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I have no idea what's going on 
EDIT: got it
EDIT: got it
OllieBHaas25
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Our lord and savior Fernando Alonso!
December brings a bumper month from NG Models featuring a great selection of European and Asian widebodies, but almost zero N-reg. Check out my thoughts and rankings here.
planes_on_a_shelf
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So just to point out - 19 of the 44 releases are marked CRP wishes.
Yeah I see that, although it doesn't really tell the story exactly. Only 11 are actually independent wishes and of those 11 only 4 get anywhere near the sort of vote level that would get the vote approved if NG weren't going to make the model anyway and those are BA A35K, SQ A359, CI A359 and CA C909.
Arguably none of those 4 are surprising releases for NG to do. Nicely encapsulates why the wishlist programme is of questionable value I'd say.
planes_on_a_shelf
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it's not so black and white, I will argue. Thus we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater - and instead we should allow for the grey space within which the system is operating.
This is the first NG CI A359 - which is surprising considering the popularity of the subject matter and NG's supposed Asia focus (just like say they haven't released a VN A359 yet). Thus it is telling that one of the first wishes to hit
was this CI scheme - I'd have expected NG to release a regular scheme to accompany, but well. And there's of course other special schemes on the CI A359s.The SQ A350s - each one is a different configuration - with a different cabin window layout, corresponding to whether they're regional, long haul std, or ULR. Each one was wished independently / separately - thus highlighting collector's demands - and perhaps forcing NG's hands to finally release it regardless of licensing issues etc
The BA A35Ks - well each reg was wished for separately (NG seems to be broadly faithful to the wish / commission intentions looks like - which of course has both its plus and minus points)
If these 3 airlines are so obvious money spinners (which they are) - with the supposed Asia focus , it begs the question why they weren't made already.
I'd say thus that the wish system is a good and welcome course correction, crowd sourced in a way, for NG, as obviously, there's evident internal doubts (within NG management presumably) wrt to release choices, and especially after their aggressive expansion two years ago. Thus the CRP wish system is a great way for NG to say 'listen' to the collectorate through mandate - arguably way more democratic than their earlier foray into forums and their raucous echo chambers.
I don't see how a Mexicana A318 would be possible without the CRP Wishlist system, to name just one recent example - and amongst the forthcoming releases already approved quite a few of which are actually subjects one may assume are niche, yet garner enough votes to reach
Similarly, the wish System has sent the message that yes, Tristars and Tu 154s are much wanted, and not merely a demand of a minority within the collectorate
Nothing is ever watertight, and nothing is ever perfect, and yes there are downsides - one of course is what we have seen over the past year, where smaller and more agile manufacturers are essentially using the CRP Wishlist to 'get there first' - although, those are limited releases and have a much smaller reach. Thus the mechanics logistics and business of a large scale NG release will never be able to compare to the niche and limited exclusives and the smaller brands - although, they may hijack the success of the wishlist approved models successes in some cases.
I think you're misreading the wishes. There was only 2 wishes for an SQ A359 - one got 33 votes and one (for the ULR) got 24 votes. They just picked 3 aircraft and assigned the 33 general wish to all 3.
If you click on the 3 A350s you'll see only 2 were actually wished for (A and M) and one of those got 15 votes, which isn't enough to get it made. They made all three to split the production run but in reality only one was a real wish that met the criteria of the system.
I'd argue the reason they weren't made already is simply that there are lots and lots of models to be made and only so many production slots. Plus in the case of all 3 A350s that were wishes they had been made already multiple times by other brands.
Listening to the collectors when all they want are copies of what others do and have done isn't ideal.
NG have definitely struggled before I agree and the wish centre has its merits, however if all it means is that by listening to the collectorate we get an endless stream of modern widebodies and A320/737s then in my opinion it is a missed opportunity. So far that has largely been what it has been even though some more classic models are approved they were largely from the first push for wishes. More recent wishes are largely modern boring obvious models that are made by all the other brands already or would be made anyway.
I don't see how a Mexicana A318 would be possible without the CRP Wishlist system, to name just one recent example - and amongst the forthcoming releases already approved quite a few of which are actually subjects one may assume are niche, yet garner enough votes to reach
This is a good example of them really not knowing what they are doing then. A Mexicana A318 is an obvious choice for anyone with aviation knowledge who is interested in making an aircraft not flying today. If that is seen as an outlier then diversity is really going to be taking a hit.
JJ Skippy
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I agree, but seeing as NG has some of the best narrowbody moulds on the market I can see why some turn to them and make wishes for that kind of stuff. Panda & AeroPolaris is of similar quality too but their release numbers are minute in nature. I hope NG makes those MD-80s and Tristars in 2026 since I know you’ve lobbied hard for the classic types to show up.
One A320 family operator that I think would be hard to argue against would be Frontier — see how many tail designs they have? Granted the amount of collectors that would want to build a massive fleet of Frontier tails is small (myself included), but I think there’s at least a little global appeal for the animal tails. There’s six total current Frontier wishes; four are in preproduction, one has the
but not approved and the last has at least double digit votes.
planes_on_a_shelf
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Exactly the set of points I was making.
Which is why the Wishlist system is a great tool for course correction - to whatever extent it is able to. Imagine, even AFR A318s haven't been made yet - and needed the Wish system to finally see the light of day.
It's an obvious trade off, wouldn't it be so?
I frankly wouldn't complain about that - both are relevant and desired by the collectorate
For instance, NG forgot about the A339 after making the initial set of DALs - in spite of the type's popularity amongst the collectorate, and much sought after subjects on the A330ceos have also been lacking. These may be 'boring modern widebodies' for some, but for many, these are much needed subjects on the best available mould. I haven't bought a single A330neo from inferior options such as the Av400 or JC or PHX after NG announced their mould - in spite of A330s being a focus of my collection - and the Wishlist system proves that there are many collectors who think and have acted likewise. And let's not forget that the A330ceo for instance, is almost as old as the 747-400
, but has outlived it in active service.Again, is that really the case, in ALL the cases?! The aforementioned BA, SQ, CI widebodies - when was the last time these were made as a regular mainstream release on a good / excellent mould - if at all?
Panda and their OEMs don't count as widespread releases, Panda only made a limited run of the 9V-SGG you mentioned in the video (as was mentioned by my retailers) - my pre-order remained unfulfilled at 2 stores, because of the limited Panda production run.
Gemini Star, Undefined, BST, etc etc - none of these can or should count as wide major mainstream releases frankly - a limited OEM release is worse in reach than an AC release - and obviously doesn't fulfill widespread demand - besides only being a store exclusive or only available on a Chinese website that not everyone can access, or on a Chinese store - and they may not even ship to your country - just like Future Wings doesn't to mine.
And, it will be prohibitively expensive for many to get an ARD exclusive even though it's on a competing mould, or they're made by Av400 more than 6-7 years ago if at all.
I'd say let's not succumb to hyperbole
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I guess the wishlist system requires me to trust in the basic commonsense of humanity (which is a struggle in 2025) and the basic commonsense of 400 scale brands (always a stretch). I'd have more faith in democracy 15 years ago!
I'm not a massive fan of re-releasing models just because there is demand and people didn't get an early release, if it means taking a production slot for something more unique. Selfish of me maybe. I'm not so generous to care all about what other people want over my wishes
I did give one of the SQs, CI and BAs highflyer after all so I don't think we're really disagreeing massively. However this concept of only buying NG and nothing else then getting upset when NG don't make the model people want I do find rather self-defeating. NG are good. They aren't that good.
I'm not a massive fan of re-releasing models just because there is demand and people didn't get an early release, if it means taking a production slot for something more unique. Selfish of me maybe. I'm not so generous to care all about what other people want over my wishes
I did give one of the SQs, CI and BAs highflyer after all so I don't think we're really disagreeing massively. However this concept of only buying NG and nothing else then getting upset when NG don't make the model people want I do find rather self-defeating. NG are good. They aren't that good.
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