LiveryCollector
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Aviation Megastore quite recently as well.
Model teaser from HX model, partially physical.
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Aviation Megastore quite recently as well.
aviation456
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Add Aviation Retail Direct to that list too!
planes_on_a_shelf
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This! You're absolutely right.
MIAv8Diecast
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I would also like to add that Final Approach Collectibles has also listed these as of last night in small quantities. I picked up the Juan Trippe (Flaps Down).
danwashere
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abdulmohiuddin
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I have seen it on AliExpress for a fair price
C$91.86 | HX 1:400 Japanese JAL B747-100 aircraft model JA8101 Alloy finished product model
HX 1:400 Japanisches JAL B747-100 Flugzeugmodell JA8101 Fertigproduktmodell aus Legierung - AliExpress 26
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The man, the legend Bedfordshire Diecast now has all the new Pan Am HX 747s listed at his site here: https://www.bedfordshirediecast.co.uk/product-category/hx-models/ so get in early to secure yours & get 5% off your order with the code HX5
I'm not getting paid for this by the way - just a favour for a good friend and my favourite store in the UK.
I'm not getting paid for this by the way - just a favour for a good friend and my favourite store in the UK.
Thank you all for the enthusiastic discussion and valuable feedback regarding the HX 747. We truly appreciate the many issues that have been pointed out, and we are now planning a major revision of the mould to address these concerns.
For example, we will be correcting the nose landing gear height and the oversized nose gear doors, as many of you have mentioned. This will be a significant undertaking, but we are committed to addressing all the mould inaccuracies that have been raised.
Once again, we kindly ask everyone to continue sharing feedback by posting side-by-side comparisons of our model and real aircraft photos under this thread. I will collect all suggestions and submit them together for revision.
For example, we will be correcting the nose landing gear height and the oversized nose gear doors, as many of you have mentioned. This will be a significant undertaking, but we are committed to addressing all the mould inaccuracies that have been raised.
Once again, we kindly ask everyone to continue sharing feedback by posting side-by-side comparisons of our model and real aircraft photos under this thread. I will collect all suggestions and submit them together for revision.
Since you asked...
It would be great to rework the entire front section and make it consistent across all of the 747 variants. The 747 cockpit area actually has a lot of angular/curvilinear contours that no manufacturer in this scale has capitulated; I've attached a few pictures that highlight these features. Druz144 over at airlinercafe has an excellent 747 nose that captured these features in 1/144; Zvezda and Revell have also done a pretty good job with theirs. It would be amazing to see them in 1/400 (https://airlinercafe.com/forums/topic/nose-section-for-boeing-747-400-kits-revell-in-1-144-scale/)
BUT I also understand that this is incredibly nit-picky, so if this is not feasible, I hope that the current 747-100 nose/cockpit printing is transposed on the current 744/748 tooling. IMO, the current Pan Am 747s have the most accurate nose shape and cockpit window printing (shape, size, and positioning). The 747-400 and 747-8 seem to suffer from consistency issues when looking at all models across HX, YY, and Geministar, and overall are not as accurate as the recently released Pan Am 747-100. If anything, the Geminstar EVA comes close, but even then it looks wonky from certain angles.
Finally, as has been pointed out by others, the hollow core engines and the thick inlets of the smaller 747 classic and 744 engines take away from the realism of the model.
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Sometimes I think you guys go way too far in the details of 1:400 scale miniatures... but my opinion is really irrelevant, to be honest. Let's see how (and if) HX will improve their 747s
OllieBHaas25
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Agreed. I don’t understand how people expect such detail from models that are 3 inches long. Sort of understand the nose issue but when it comes to APU and such I don’t get it
When a manufacturer is openly calling for suggestions after announcing a significant revamp, I don't understand why (in this specific situation) one wouldn't at least try to give as detailed feedback as possible when we are paying upwards of $50-$60 ($70 with shipping) per model. I would hope that we could anticipate getting something as close to perfect as possible, but to each their own I guess.
MIAv8Diecast
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I agree with the above we need to manage expectations with these models and how accurate they can be. However, name another manufacturer that would ask for advice. Not Gemini, absolutely not Aeroclassics and NG has gone into oblivion with communication. If we have the opportunity to influence how our models are produced I say let’s take it when we can get it.
planes_on_a_shelf
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Totally agree.
I really appreciate your inputs as a fellow collector, and am hoping that @Jim will facilitate this with HX.
Your feedback and inputs establish the surface geometry from sharply observed visual cues - so that they can be made comprehensible and thus modelled on the 3D CAD software for the mould production.
These diagrams showing the 'folds' or 'indents' clearly illustrate the geometry of intersection of the different shapes and surfaces.
I don't understand the opposition frankly - which in my view borders on hypocrisy - my fellow collectors I need to unfortunately call this out.
All these inputs will help refine the base 3D CAD model - and will result in even more accurate finished models!
I hope no one is under the impression that, these manufacturers are using 'clay modeling' in 2025!
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Be realistic is all some people are saying.
I don't think it is hypocrisy to think that some of the 'improvements' being asked for are not cut and dried as definitive improvements, open to a lot of interpretation, very expensive and not commercially viable. Yes some changes would be good but modifications to the fuselage require the creation of a 100% new mould and there doesn't seem to be much understanding of that on here in terms of cost and effort involved - or that in doing so it detracts from money that can be spent elsewhere better.
Changing add-on components like undercarriage, engines and stabs is much easier and something I'd support, but starting from fresh with an entire 747 fuselage is mental.
I maintain that 'perfection is the enemy of progress' and this engineering first viewpoint that every model should be perfection is wasteful, unrealistic and not good for the hobby for multiple reasons. And that is coming from someone running a website dedicated to good 400 scale models!
Sometimes the manufacturers simply don't agree with some collectors viewpoints (which often hardly align themselves). It isn't like they aren't using CAD drawings already is it and came up with different solutions? The engines and electroplating here are good examples of that. They aren't mistakes or issues just because 'you' don't like them personally - regardless of my opinion.
Also look at the market! A market under severe pressure at the moment and a market that happily supports a wide range of weak and poorly executed moulds and models. As much as I care about mould accuracy it clearly isn't the be-all and end-all of what people buy. If we're talking about the HX 747 classics in general the the moulds are already out of sight in terms of quality relating to other 747s available. Does anyone on here seriously think that outside of the MAF bubble an optimisation of anything but the undercarriage will have any impact on sales whatsoever? If you do I think you're dreaming myself.
HX aren't a charity trying to make the most realistic 747 ever - they are a business trying to make money.
I also think that Jim is being super naive here by promising a lot, most of which I doubt will be delivered. Then HX will have, in a few months, exactly the same issues that NG created for themselves whereby you have unrealistic expectations set which collectors spend the next months and years moaning and whinging about not being done to their satisfaction as if the model brand personally works for them. I still maintain that engaging too closely with collectors has not been beneficial to NG Models and is one of the reasons why they have moved away. In time HX will probably learn this lesson as well.
Lastly making modifications isn't a panacea. There have been plenty of times when mods have been made, which have made a mould worse not better - so there is a risk attached.
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