Model teaser from HX model, partially physical.

[Theresa apocalypse222222]

If @YesterAirlines hadn't shared the two images, I frankly wouldn't have realised what @Phantom was referring to. I understand the OCD challenges of someone who designs and makes.
Hehe. I guess the more you look closely, the more you know, and the burden of what you accept and let go of also changes
Hehe little philosophical perhaps but yeah.

For me the HX FDs are of interest. That's when the 747s look most majestic, and I can overlook the lack of the Sutter wing twist in 1:400. Besides I still feel something's off with the front section.
Nonetheless, Hopefully the pricing is right so I'll pick up a few FDs. .
Unfortunately, with the PT branding, the prices go haywire

the “sutter wing twist “ is quite obvious for this mould I think

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

What are all the forthcoming HX 747s?
Is there a list somewhere or some store that has them all on pre-order or something?
It's a bit confusing with HX and Patriot

 

[miaoyimiaozhongl]

Make this three versions and without looking any deeper into it, I think HX mixed two (not the reg pos.)

This picture is supposed to solve the problem.

 

[Phantom]

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This picture is supposed to solve the problem.

What "problem" exactly and how so? This is 8102 btw.

 

[miaoyimiaozhongl]

It's all painted in the same batch, and JA8101's registration number was in front of the last hatch throughout the seventies, so I don't think there's much of a problem with the certification.

What "problem" exactly and how so? This is 8102 btw.

 

[Phantom]

It's all painted in the same batch, and JA8101's registration number was in front of the last hatch throughout the seventies, so I don't think there's much of a problem with the certification.

Yeah, hence I said I'm not talking about the reg. postition.

 

[miaoyimiaozhongl]

Yeah, hence I said I'm not talking about the reg. postition.

Oh I see what you mean, forgive my oversight. This is a really serious problem, but the guy who approached hx to customize the JAL is supposedly going to release six 747s with distinct registration numbers, so hopefully it will improve after that.

 

[Phantom]

Oh I see what you mean, forgive my oversight. This is a really serious problem, but the guy who approached hx to customize the JAL is supposedly going to release six 747s with distinct registration numbers, so hopefully it will improve after that.

No problem.
While typing 8102 above I remembered this amazing image and actually found it again online (flyteam.jp)

It shows (almost) full 1980's colors: the satcom was long gone, corogarded white stabs, the wings and belly repainted into what is likely "light aircraft grey"/"Boeing aircraft grey"/BAC707... - the standard grey on almost all model 747s (incl. the HX/SQ..).
This grey however was a truly rare sight and non-standard on classic 747s - including JAL until mid 80's. What makes this image so interesting is that this airframe still wears Boeings original "standard" grey for 747s on the flaps. A color I've last seen replicated on the good old DW/JX 747 releases.

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

Boeings original "standard" grey for 747s on the flaps. A color I've last seen replicated on the good old DW/JX 747 releases

This grey is different from the aforementioned 'light aircraft grey / Boeing aircraft grey'? Or they're the same?

And as always @Phantom, thanks for these insights!

 

[EnterpriseH]

I'd have been surprised if not as SQ/HX/.... obviousely go through the same hands, consequently sharing the same master/CAD.
The wing joint however isn't the biggest problem for my eyes. There are so many things that are off on these HX like the upper deck, but particularly the aft fuselage and v.tail keep me from buying any.

I bet that's more due to the guy who take this (and the guy who customized this from HX), Daodao Models on Taobao. BTW he's also a major dealer of ex JAL magazine/now JetHut models too, which could also explained why he will customized this.

But, I mean, you know you really need to improved your photo shooting skill when you somehow managed to let a HX 747 mould looked like PH...

 

[Phantom]

This grey is different from the aforementioned 'light aircraft grey / Boeing aircraft grey'? Or they're the same?

And as always @Phantom, thanks for these insights!

The one on the flaps? A completely different shade. One (here wings/belly) is a perfect neutral light grey (asumed "Boeing grey" aka BAC707) the other (flap) a warm darker shade. The latter was likely selected for all early 747s because it blended nicely with bare metal skins. A light neutral grey doesn't do this job well (see LH's 1980's)
A few airlines repainted to neutral light grey early on (Lufthansa already mid 70's) others when their livery design got rid of bare metal (like JAL's 1980's above) and again others kept it as standard even into their final years of 744 service (SQ, QF and others)

I don't get why this is completely being ignored in the entire 747 scale model universe. At least DW/JX tried back in their days.

Here's a well lit shot of an SQ 744 in its un-faded standard pattern - and the white balance didn't totally throw off the warm grey which usually happens when there's no neutral reference. Note the two different shades of grey on wings vs. engines/pylons - the two greys in question.

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

Here's a well lit shot of an SQ 744 in its un-faded standard pattern - and the white balance didn't totally throw off the warm grey which usually happens when there's no neutral reference. Note the two different shades of grey on wings vs. engines/pylons - the two greys in question.

Gotcha - yes I now see what you point out in the previous picture of the JAL at Nagoya
Gosh this is really easily replicable on 1:400 as you point out with the DW/JX!
I've always wondered about these greys and their 'provenance' so to speak - thanks for illustrating this so clearly.
Presumably this 'Boeing Grey' becomes the subsequent standard grey for all aircraft beyond Boeing and the 747? Like say the fuselage grey on ANA, CI, CA, AI, etc - as in universally, adopted by Airbus et al?

 

[Phantom]

Gotcha - yes I now see what you point out in the previous picture of the JAL at Nagoya
Gosh this is really easily replicable on 1:400 as you point out with the DW/JX!
I've always wondered about these greys and their 'provenance' so to speak - thanks for illustrating this so clearly.
Presumably this 'Boeing Grey' becomes the subsequent standard grey for all aircraft beyond Boeing and the 747? Like say the fuselage grey on ANA, CI, CA, AI, etc - as in universally, adopted by Airbus et al?

On the real thing I'd think BAC 707 grey is THE standard grey - as it is neutral - and can be found on about any type there is (Just not on composite wings as these require a lighter shade for thermal reasons, but that's a different story again)
And no wonder it is the standard grey for our models. Ironically the grey on my SQ 741 prototype is an almost perfect match to my 707 paint sample, however it would have needed that other (warm) shade of grey in question. BAC 7025 grey it is.
I didn't look any further but I think today 7025 is rarely ever used on wings. The last prominent examples to receive this "classic" color where the three BA retro 744s - consequently as the original BOAC/Negus/Landor 747s also wore 7025.


And just for the fun of it...

In this shot, two 741s and a single 742 can be identified.
Like I said, LH repainted their airframes away from 7025 mid/late 70's, so the ex LH airframe is easy to spot here:

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

And just for the fun of it...

In this shot, two 741s and a single 742 can be identified.
Like I said, LH repainted their airframes away from 7025 mid/late 70's, so the ex LH airframe is easy to spot here:

Haha yup yup!!!

And gosh look at us nerding out over greys! Hah! Such Fun!

 

[miaoyimiaozhongl]

JAL 747s were delivered with all white stabs.
So either doing satcom/all white or no satcom/corogard would be consequent. I'm not saying this didn't exist, but I'd have made it consequent.

Edit: now that I'm looking through some pics, I see you could easily make four variants.

Latest update: I've relayed the feedback to the Daodao team. They confirmed the horizontal stabilizer color will be corrected to full white—should be resolved after some waiting time.