V1:400 Update & 727 / DC-9 Photos

[YesterAirlines]

Hi All. Apologies for the delays with the first set of V1:400s. It's not in my control, but I'm doing my best to help things along and in the latest video I give an update on their ETA, plus present photos of all the 727s and DC-9-10s. Obviously, these are using pre-existing moulds, which I'm not claiming are faultless, but I think they compare well against competing 727s and as you're aware none of these have ever been made before in 400 scale.

A video seemed the easiest way to disseminate the images, but obviously I can post some of them separately later on in this thread too.

 

[bakejobb_23]

The 727s look really nice, except for the nose but its a passable model imo, the subject matter and details are great compared to whom would normally make them (Aero). Hope these all sell well as more classic airliners is great to see.

Any hints you can provide for the second wave? Anything I would be particularly interested in from an Allegheny all the way to US Airways side of things?

 

[YesterAirlines]

The 727s look really nice, except for the nose but its a passable model imo, the subject matter and details are great compared to whom would normally make them (Aero). Hope these all sell well as more classic airliners is great to see.

Thanks. Yeah I was limited by what was available mouldwise. To be honest I doubt we'll use that provider again.

Any hints you can provide for the second wave? Anything I would be particularly interested in from an Allegheny all the way to US Airways side of things?

Can't give too much away but 6 of the models in the next set are American heritage airlines.

 

[Phantom]

I admit I know nothing about this 727 mould, but honestly this makes the weak AC 722 mould look stellar. Are the #1/3 engines 1/500 scale?

 

[Alphaless]

Cockpit area and engines were definitely the first two things I noticed, too. Otherwise the models look solid.

 

[YesterAirlines]

I admit I know nothing about this 727 mould, but honestly this makes the weak AC 722 mould look stellar. Are the #1/3 engines 1/500 scale?

Here's a comparison of the moulds:



If we're talking about weaknesses then I'd say it looks like this:

Aeroclassics
- Wing seam
- Angled no 2 engine
- No aerials
- Undetailed landing gear
- Weak printing

Gemini Jets
- Wing seam
- Too small no 2 intake
- Incorrect angles at vert stab front and top

V1:400
- Nose too round
- Rear tail chord

As for the no 1 and 3 engines you are right!

I only just got these photos and hadn't spotted that. Not sure what is going on there as they are supposed to have used the Witty mould above but these engines are clearly not from that! I will feedback this issue now.

This provider has proven to be not as good as advertised and I doubt we'll be using them again.

 

[JJ Skippy]

They look okay but IMO not worth the retail price they go for in the U.S. I would still buy these if they were discounted slightly.

 

[YesterAirlines]

They look okay but IMO not worth the retail price they go for in the U.S. I would still buy these if they were discounted slightly.

Unfortunately pricing is outside of my control

 

[Starz10p Aviation]

Here's a comparison of the moulds:

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If we're talking about weaknesses then I'd say it looks like this:

Aeroclassics
- Wing seam
- Angled no 2 engine
- No aerials
- Undetailed landing gear
- Weak printing

Gemini Jets
- Wing seam
- Too small no 2 intake
- Incorrect angles at vert stab front and top

V1:400
- Nose too round
- Rear tail chord

As for the no 1 and 3 engines you are right!

I only just got these photos and hadn't spotted that. Not sure what is going on there as they are supposed to have used the Witty mould above but these engines are clearly not from that! I will feedback this issue now.

This provider has proven to be not as good as advertised and I doubt we'll be using them again.

The V:100 mould looks quite good IMO. Engines are a problem for me though… those do look tiny. I’ll for sure buy one or two of these, likely one of each mould here. Great work Richard!

Would love to see Air Canada on the 767, DC-9 and 727 if you continue V:100! This brand has got a lot of good potential

 

[LeoMuse747]

Sadly the engines 1 and 3 are indeed super tiny. Hopefully these will be fixed! Other than that, and other than the round nose, they look good.
The Carnival is the one I like Miami Air would have been great aswell

 

[YesterAirlines]

Are the #1/3 engines 1/500 scale?

Y'know I think they are. I think they have put the engines from the Inflight500 727 mould onto the Witty 400 727. Here is the Inflight500 version - the engines look the same:



I have spoken with Motor City and we have emailed the factory. Hopefully they respond quickly and with a suitable answer. I am sorry everyone this is very poor from the factory.

 

[Airmath]

Here's a comparison of the moulds:

View attachment 69010

If we're talking about weaknesses then I'd say it looks like this:

Aeroclassics
- Wing seam
- Angled no 2 engine
- No aerials
- Undetailed landing gear
- Weak printing

Gemini Jets
- Wing seam
- Too small no 2 intake
- Incorrect angles at vert stab front and top

V1:400
- Nose too round
- Rear tail chord

As for the no 1 and 3 engines you are right!

I only just got these photos and hadn't spotted that. Not sure what is going on there as they are supposed to have used the Witty mould above but these engines are clearly not from that! I will feedback this issue now.

This provider has proven to be not as good as advertised and I doubt we'll be using them again.

The nose looks thinner and the engines are bigger on the Witty mould...
It shows immediately.
Why did they modify them?
Incredible! The model is yet under their eyes... do they need glasses to see well?
Take two steps forward and one step back...
Maybe one day we will see the performance of Artificial Intelligence offer us the greatest accuracy in the world of miniature airplanes, made in clean technology rooms...I dream.

 

[YesterAirlines]

The nose looks thinner and the engines are bigger on the Witty mould...
It shows immediately.
Why did they modify them?
Incredible! The model is yet under their eyes... do they need glasses to see well?
Take two steps forward and one step back...
Maybe one day we will see the performance of Artificial Intelligence offer us the greatest accuracy in the world of miniature airplanes, made in clean technology rooms...I dream.

I don't think the nose has changed but the engines...

What can I say! This is the issue dealing with third party manufacturers. Panda have been excellent to work with, but this other bunch not so much. I think AI is more likely to kill us all than make excellent 400 scale models however

 

[Phantom]

I think they have put the engines from the Inflight500 727 mould onto the Witty 400 727

Was my first thought as well, but I'd expect the part joints to be essentially different between 400 and 500 scale. So I doubt this happened accidentally.
Did the factory ever show (pre-) production samples to you or MC?

 

[Airmath]

I don't think the nose has changed but the engines...

What can I say! This is the issue dealing with third party manufacturers. Panda have been excellent to work with, but this other bunch not so much. I think AI is more likely to kill us all than make excellent 400 scale models however

Yes, maybe, depending on the liveries, the nose paintings may seem to give it a different look...I don’t know.

Seeing new manufacturers appear develops the market, it’s a good thing, it’s the hope to finally see expected models, which might never come out otherwise... but at the risk of quality.
We don’t know who we’re dealing with, unlike proven manufacturers, which we know better in general.
I find that it’s more delicate to project acquisitions under these conditions.

A whole world relying on AI is certainly not desirable for us humans, of course, but the recurring problems with finishing and accuracy, and the associated disappointment of collectors in the hobby are questioning me about what could improve things in the future. And greater technology seems to me necessary to reduce human hazards, if we aim for the most faithful aircraft models possible on scale 1.
Small-scale airplanes are not mere toys, but rather collectibles, with all the quality requirements one can expect from them, especially given the price paid which, in turn, never goes down!

 

[Airmath]

Y'know I think they are. I think they have put the engines from the Inflight500 727 mould onto the Witty 400 727. Here is the Inflight500 version - the engines look the same:

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I have spoken with Motor City and we have emailed the factory. Hopefully they respond quickly and with a suitable answer. I am sorry everyone this is very poor from the factory.

Hopefully.
Thank you!

 

[YesterAirlines]

Was my first thought as well, but I'd expect the part joints to be essentially different between 400 and 500 scale. So I doubt this happened accidentally.
Did the factory ever show (pre-) production samples to you or MC?

No these are the first photos of the models with the components we've been able to get. Effectively these are the sample shots. They've been poor at responding to requests.