Tariffs & Model Airliner Prices

Along those lines, my point also weaves its way into there. I’ve been in retail for almost 35 years, while you think constant discount etc.. keeps customers, it does not. It’s a lure tactic, once these new prices discount or deal goes away, those customers for the most part will also go away. It’s not the mainstay of how a business will stay afloat. And with these price increases it will be hard to give those deals and or free shipping, and make any money doing so. I’ve had long exchanges with Nick early on about the constant discounts. He wasn’t making money, he just didn’t realize it. Especially when you have to report and pay taxes on all those earnings. It’s all about margins. We run just at or a hair above MAP, and know for a fact that’s not where we make our profit. We make our profit when we buy collections, it’s not on new releases, and why I say that a lot of these stores are going to go away with the increase that’s about to hit. When you offer free shipping that’s even a bigger hit, as you are paying fees to the shipping platform as well, therefore really eating into that small margin there is anyways.
So a lot of these little online shops don’t and won’t have the longevity of the bigger older stores. I know your friends with Nick, but you can already see it’s a fleeting thing with them. He’s in school, and that should be his priority, and you can see it in him not responding or slipping customer service. I’m not speaking for him but Dan, great guy, probably the same thing. It’s a cool little part time hobby selling deal, but not a forever thing. Which again pivots me to when these tariffs hit and folks see that they can’t give the discounts they have been, a lot will start to call it quits, as it doesn’t make sense to essentially make next to nothing when it all washes out. It’s simple economics, you don’t have to major in it. I’ve said it before, but the few that have had free shipping in place will most likely, and it’s already been seen, be a thing of the past.
My .02 worth.
Along those lines, my point also weaves its way into there. I’ve been in retail for almost 35 years, while you think constant discount etc.. keeps customers, it does not. It’s a lure tactic, once these new prices discount or deal goes away, those customers for the most part will also go away. It’s not the mainstay of how a business will stay afloat. And with these price increases it will be hard to give those deals and or free shipping, and make any money doing so. I’ve had long exchanges with Nick early on about the constant discounts. He wasn’t making money, he just didn’t realize it. Especially when you have to report and pay taxes on all those earnings. It’s all about margins. We run just at or a hair above MAP, and know for a fact that’s not where we make our profit. We make our profit when we buy collections, it’s not on new releases, and why I say that a lot of these stores are going to go away with the increase that’s about to hit. When you offer free shipping that’s even a bigger hit, as you are paying fees to the shipping platform as well, therefore really eating into that small margin there is anyways.
So a lot of these little online shops don’t and won’t have the longevity of the bigger older stores. I know your friends with Nick, but you can already see it’s a fleeting thing with them. He’s in school, and that should be his priority, and you can see it in him not responding or slipping customer service. I’m not speaking for him but Dan, great guy, probably the same thing. It’s a cool little part time hobby selling deal, but not a forever thing. Which again pivots me to when these tariffs hit and folks see that they can’t give the discounts they have been, a lot will start to call it quits, as it doesn’t make sense to essentially make next to nothing when it all washes out. It’s simple economics, you don’t have to major in it. I’ve said it before, but the few that have had free shipping in place will most likely, and it’s already been seen, be a thing of the past.
My .02 worth.
I will also say that the fine folks at PandaFox were doing those deals because they were selling in volume, so the small margins were subsidized by the shear volume of new releases they were pushing out the door. Now with the bandwagon of online sellers, selling the same thing, they can’t do that and survive very long on that business model, as they don’t have that volume selling anymore. They don’t want to carry the inventory past the weekend of those new releases. Once the newness wears off, they are sitting on dead inventory without a retail outlet.
 
So it is not just a 10% tariff on toys (including 400 scale) coming from China, but a 20% tariff for our American friends. And this isn't even in the top 20 stupidest things that the Trump administration has said or done in the past week!

The article says effective total tariff of toys from China will be 34% - will it be the same for diecast collectibles? These may be in a different category than toys which are under 14?
 
The article says effective total tariff of toys from China will be 34% - will it be the same for diecast collectibles? These may be in a different category than toys which are under 14?
It will also depend on how we, as retailers, get our product. From what we understand, if it's via courier (FedEx, UPS), that should bypass any tariffs. If it's coming via overseas container then it would be subject to the tariffs and taxes. So for US retailers, that would be Gemini(ADI). We have heard nothing about InFlight as of yet.
 
The article says effective total tariff of toys from China will be 34% - will it be the same for diecast collectibles? These may be in a different category than toys which are under 14?
They fall under the heading 95030000 in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule - as I’d previously posted in this thread, and is directly available from the US Government here:

https://hts.usitc.gov/

https://hts.usitc.gov/search?query=95030000

The specific HTS code for die-cast metal models is 95030085 but cannot pin that code down on the site, it’s just under 95030000.

Rates of Duty are still shown as “Free”.
 
The article says effective total tariff of toys from China will be 34% - will it be the same for diecast collectibles? These may be in a different category than toys which are under 14?
The article doesn't say that. It says the 'effective tariff rate on imports from China now stands at roughly 34%' not toys.

The tariff on toys and models is 20%
They fall under the heading 95030000 in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule - as I’d previously posted in this thread, and is directly available from the US Government here:

https://hts.usitc.gov/

https://hts.usitc.gov/search?query=95030000

The specific HTS code for die-cast metal models is 95030085 but cannot pin that code down on the site, it’s just under 95030000.

Rates of Duty are still shown as “Free”.
I have been working closely with a major US distributor and they believe the tariff is 20% just like in the article.

It'll be interesting to see whether imports via courier can skip past this and if so for how long.
 
The HTS website is the only official source of information regarding tariffs - so that would be shown there if so
 
The HTS website is the only official source of information regarding tariffs - so that would be shown there if so
Are you suggesting efficiency and organisation from MAGA Republicans? They probably fired all the people who worked in that department and/or update the website. I think I'll trust the BBC and people on the ground.
 
I’m suggesting that it’s an official source of information, nothing more. Being the HTS database it’s pretty important and relevant, and is actually undergoing scheduled maintenance today. Updates are on there. Chapter 95 has Rev.1 (2025) etc. All dry stuff to wade through. You’d think legally it would have to be kept up to date; quite an important machinery of government.

If the department has been completely buggered by the present administration (which is entirely possible) it would also be pretty counter-intuitive - given it’s responsibility to implement any of the proposed changes in the first place!

HTS Rev.2 here:

https://hts.usitc.gov/download?release=2025HTSRev2&releaseDate=02/10/2025

I’d expect the HTS to be reliable - I’ll put it to the test and ask them for help with finding out where the 20% tariffs are being shown for HTS Code 95030000. It might not have been implemented yet.

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Ok well I’ve sent in my question, let’s see what they come back with.

In the meantime I did more digging and learnt about Chapter 99 which deals with temporary legislation. So under this there is a parallel Chapter 99 HTS code: 9903.88.16, articles the product of China under which sits 9503.00.00.

For rates of duty here, it currently states “the duty provided in the applicable subheading” (which is still “free”), +15% (?). It also states in bold “provision suspended”.

It doesn’t appear to me that this has yet been finalized, enacted or passed into law yet. All I’m trying to do is get it from the horse’s mouth - and that would be here.
 

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Regardless of what that site says. I know of multiple retailers who are already paying for the tariffs. For example this is from Donald of DGPilotStore posted this morning:

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Poor guy. I’ll give up trying to make sense of it for now I think - it just doesn’t add up to me. Surely this would show somewhere there, it has to. I’ve not heard anything from JetCollector yet, that’s my main source. All I know is, if it does indeed end up being 20% in total on top, that’s me out of the game for sure. What a f**k up!
 
Poor guy. I’ll give up trying to make sense of it for now I think - it just doesn’t add up to me. Surely this would show somewhere there, it has to. I’ve not heard anything from JetCollector yet, that’s my main source. All I know is, if it does indeed end up being 20% in total on top, that’s me out of the game for sure. What a f**k up!
I don't think it'll be 20%. I've heard that price rises for GJ are in the 5-10% range, but for other models and brands (not 400 scale) they may be a lot higher. If models coming via courier avoid it then it might not affect a lot of our scale.

You're in the UK anyway. This shouldn't have any impact on us other than potentially weakening all the manufacturers to the extent some could fail.
 
I don't think it'll be 20%. I've heard that price rises for GJ are in the 5-10% range, but for other models and brands (not 400 scale) they may be a lot higher. If models coming via courier avoid it then it might not affect a lot of our scale.

You're in the UK anyway. This shouldn't have any impact on us other than potentially weakening all the manufacturers to the extent some could fail.
“Models coming via courier” - if I’m not mistaken, that’s the “de Minimis” rule on imports worth less than $800. Historically, these were not subject to tariffs. I believe Mango Mussolini wants to end that, but that plan is on ice until the government has an effective way to track and tax individual shipments.
 
I don't think it'll be 20%. I've heard that price rises for GJ are in the 5-10% range, but for other models and brands (not 400 scale) they may be a lot higher. If models coming via courier avoid it then it might not affect a lot of our scale.

You're in the UK anyway. This shouldn't have any impact on us other than potentially weakening all the manufacturers to the extent some could fail.
That’s even more confusing. The tariff applied to each product under their respective HTS code would be a fixed %, yet there are varying price rises going on.

I’m in the UK, but I buy all my AC models from JetCollector in the US, they’re always reliable for those and it works out cheaper for me than getting them over here, unless it’s a single item. So that’s where I could potentially be affected, as if the tariff increases are applied there, then it won’t be worth it.
 
That’s even more confusing. The tariff applied to each product under their respective HTS code would be a fixed %, yet there are varying price rises going on.
Distributors are pushing back on the suppliers / factories to get them to decrease their pricing in an attempt to lessen the blow for consumers, but how much can be swallowed by any one party is obviously variable and limited so it will depend entirely on each case.
I’m in the UK, but I buy all my AC models from JetCollector in the US, they’re always reliable for those and it works out cheaper for me than getting them over here, unless it’s a single item. So that’s where I could potentially be affected, as if the tariff increases are applied there, then it won’t be worth it.
I also buy my AC from JetCollector.
 
Distributors are pushing back on the suppliers / factories to get them to decrease their pricing in an attempt to lessen the blow for consumers, but how much can be swallowed by any one party is obviously variable and limited so it will depend entirely on each case.

I also buy my AC from JetCollector.
Crikey, what a mess this has caused. Yes, over the last 1-2 years now, I’ve been using JetCollector for AC (I had previously used Threshold quite a bit, in Canada before their demise).

The VIP discount that you get with JetCollector really helps, and for about the past year, I’ve not been hit with any customs charges (and they are legit - the full value is declared every time). So it’s actually been working out quite well, but we’ll just have to wait and see. Other retailers in Canada are a backup I guess. In addition to the hefty VAT, the supply of AC in the UK is very limited I find and became a very unreliable/inconsistent affair at the few retailers which stock them here.
 
Crikey, what a mess this has caused. Yes, over the last 1-2 years now, I’ve been using JetCollector for AC (I had previously used Threshold quite a bit, in Canada before their demise).

The VIP discount that you get with JetCollector really helps, and for about the past year, I’ve not been hit with any customs charges (and they are legit - the full value is declared every time). So it’s actually been working out quite well, but we’ll just have to wait and see. Other retailers in Canada are a backup I guess. In addition to the hefty VAT, the supply of AC in the UK is very limited I find and became a very unreliable/inconsistent affair at the few retailers which stock them here.
100% agree. I was the same, using Threshold but now forced to switch to JetCollector who've been great. On the import tax to the UK if you get 2-3 models it's fine, 5+ and you get hit.
 
100% agree. I was the same, using Threshold but now forced to switch to JetCollector who've been great. On the import tax to the UK if you get 2-3 models it's fine, 5+ and you get hit.
Exactly like me! Actually the last time I got hit, it was for 4 models, I know there’s supposed to be a threshold but it’s been very inconsistent at times. I think I may even have had it on a single model as well ages ago. On that occasion, I’m sure the postage cost had been counted in as part of the overall value, which was raw prawn.
 
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