NG Models August 2025 Releases

[ATLHNL]

Because people are so whiney and caught up in their feelings about what NG produces and how NG is not producing what THEY want.

Ahahaha…so the next time you ever want something in life, don’t ever mention it aloud otherwise you’re being a whiney self pitying and spoiled prick.

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

Man I really don't want to relitigate it. I was quite pleased to see a heated discussion I wasn't part of!!!

I would say though that every month the same conversations are had on these NG release threads, but not on other brand's threads. I know everyone 'loves' NG more and some have become a bit dependent on them, but at this point it seems like an abusive relationship. They don't make the models people want and those people hate on them for that. Not good for either party.

Hey no worries man
I understand where you're coming from
Being a moderator with folks running a mock isn't easy

I just wanted to clarify that, on my part, the content and nature of my posts remained unchanged.

What I began with is what I was reiterating and expanding upon - without being acerbic or antagonistic - and I wasn't 'complaining' in the 'Karen' sense, LOL - in fact nothing I was stating was 'For' or 'Against' anything - they were just observations!!!

Until my dear friend conflated posts by different members into one and then attacked me for something I did not state, a few of us were having a healthy no-fuss and calm, observant exchange. And neither did I respond to the trolling personally or in an antagonistic manner - I just sought clarification.

It was just a few of us ANA-afflicted individuals LOL having an easy exchange and ruefully sharing notes Hehe. This is an NG release thread, and it's natural to share the models we wished NG had made - regardless of whether another manufacturer had made it or not or if personal opinions differ, because many collectors want to buy something they're looking for, on the best and most accurate mould available - and many do care about details that others may not - but that doesn't mean it's an 'Us' vs 'Them' situation

In the future - I'm requesting my fellow community members - let's not make the personal or the reactionary or the attack mode as our first response to anything posted or said or mentioned - if it is within community standards and maintains forum decorum.

 

[YesterAirlines]

I’ve lurked long enough to see people’s criticisms of other brands on here, ranging from every aspect about Gemini to the crappy moulds and printing issues of Phoenix or the disastrous QC that is Aeroclassics.

I see it but I don't see it as much or consistently as I see moaning about NG - on every single thread over and over and over.

the difference is that NG consistently markets themselves as the brand for the people but then consistently goes about making largely self serving and inexplicable decisions, effectively ignoring the voice of community. They are the ones getting people’s hopes up only to squash them. You really can’t blame collectors for holding them to a higher standard. It almost feels like they’re slimy car salesmen at this point, promising this and that but only caring about themselves in the end.

This is going to sound harsh and it isn't directed at anyone here specifically BUT...

I do think this is a symptom of them actually engaging with the collectors. Have they really made promises or have they made vague PR business-lite style comments that people take seriously? I'm sick to death of plonkers saying NG promised me they'd make x, when all they said was something vague nobody should take seriously on an Instagram reply.

This is exactly why I caution HX Models about making the same kind of statements.

Then there's the language translation barrier and Chinese culture aspects to add in (such as the year of classics thing). I can't think of a time when they've lied and I can think of tens of times when they've tried to make things better (for individuals and collectors as a whole). You've even got people complaining about free f*cking models with the CRP.

They've certainly failed to deliver at times (and within sensible timescales), but overall they've delivered better and more regularly than any other brand has. Yet all it has got them is a load of hassle. I also don't think they market themselves as the 'brand of the people' but I think they try to work with collectors and frankly it hasn't got them that far because a fair few collectors can be unreasonable and super entitled.

Ultimately NG are a business. They aren't in business to make you or I happy. That is a side effect of what they do and to be fair to them they have tried - a lot. We don't know what is going on with their business (but clearly it hasn't all been plain sailing) and if I were them I would care about my bottom line, not people on a forum, some of whom buy 2 models every six months.

They aren't the NG of 2018 anymore for sure and if that means they stay in business that isn't totally a bad thing.

 

[qweyrhgf]

Future release
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[4438559]

I see it but I don't see it as much or consistently as I see moaning about NG - on every single thread over and over and over.


This is going to sound harsh and it isn't directed at anyone here specifically BUT...

I do think this is a symptom of them actually engaging with the collectors. Have they really made promises or have they made vague PR business-lite style comments that people take seriously? I'm sick to death of plonkers saying NG promised me they'd make x, when all they said was something vague nobody should take seriously on an Instagram reply.

This is exactly why I caution HX Models about making the same kind of statements.

Then there's the language translation barrier and Chinese culture aspects to add in (such as the year of classics thing). I can't think of a time when they've lied and I can think of tens of times when they've tried to make things better (for individuals and collectors as a whole). You've even got people complaining about free f*cking models with the CRP.

They've certainly failed to deliver at times (and within sensible timescales), but overall they've delivered better and more regularly than any other brand has. Yet all it has got them is a load of hassle. I also don't think they market themselves as the 'brand of the people' but I think they try to work with collectors and frankly it hasn't got them that far because a fair few collectors can be unreasonable and super entitled.

Ultimately NG are a business. They aren't in business to make you or I happy. That is a side effect of what they do and to be fair to them they have tried - a lot. We don't know what is going on with their business (but clearly it hasn't all been plain sailing) and if I were them I would care about my bottom line, not people on a forum, some of whom buy 2 models every six months.

They aren't the NG of 2018 anymore for sure and if that means they stay in business that isn't totally a bad thing.

I never said they couldn’t do what they wanted as a company. They can continue to churn out 99% Asian models for the next decade if it suits them, but they need to stop with all the marketing crap and gimmicks if they can’t deliver.

Stating that they’ve been trying to work with collectors but fell short due to a few entitled ones is a stretch. They fell short because they bit off way more than they could chew.

 

[Starz10p Aviation]

I have tried to ignore this thread but here I am again. THIS FIRST BIT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION

I can see both sides of the issue here. Fundamentally a lot of this is people moaning that NG aren't making the model they want, but at the same time I understand that frustration. However let's all give NG a bit of credit here and assume they do have sales data and are making models that actually sell based off of that data.

On other topics raised:

SPECIAL SCHEMES
I think it is fairly well known that special liveries sell well. You and I, as aviation enthusiasts might well prefer standard schemes, but it does appear special schemes sell and presumably to a much wider market

ALL NIPPON
NG has made 21 NH models. Yes there are duplicates in there and some are old releases but that is no different than for every other major airline. It is a significantly higher number than has been made for comparable airlines like SQ, MH, PR, KLM, QF and the diversity is just as good as for other big airlines like JL, LH, AF that have similar numbers.

NG can't make everything for everyone all the time.

OVER RELIANCE ON NG
Yes NG have the best mould catalogue but relying on NG to make 100% of the models you are willing to buy is foolhardy at best and a recipe for madness at worst.

Using All Nippon as an example there have been 421 releases for the airline. 24 have been since the start of 2024. If you are unwilling to buy any of the following standard colours models released in that period which include (note I'm excluding special schemes and weaker moulds like the JC 73G, PHX A320):

AV400 787-8 JA820A
Phoenix 777-300ER JA795A
AV400 787-10 JA900A
AV400 787-10 JA981A
C Models A320 JA01VA
C Models A320 JA8997
JC Wings 737-500 JA8195

Then you have an issue. I don't want NG to duplicate releases made perfectly fine by other brands.


THIS SECOND BIT IS ME AS MODERATOR:

@ghqv2988 don't make it so personal please
@swagninja84 - let's try and play a bit nicer
@777-300ER , @Starz10p Aviation , @planes_on_a_shelf you guys did change the rules of your argument quite a bit about the ANAs.

People can moan about not getting what they want, but equally they can't get too upset when they're called out for it too. However let's try and be friendly as we can and not take it so personally.

The only reason I’m really complaining about ANA is the price and the fact that, all the STANDARD livery widebody releases from NG are only on three types, most are rereleases of the L1011 and 787-10. While I agree with the fact that NG can’t make everything and that other manufacturers make this model, I’m specifically talking NG here, and feel like they should at least start making more than just two standard livery types. As much as I love re releases, (as a US collector we need them desperately) this many is just a little too much. Hopefully NG releases more in the future and hopefully more smaller Japanese airlines too.

 

[777-300ER]

The problem is not ANA not releasing the models we want (which is another problem). It is NG releasing 4 regular 78X (which is again a basic aircraft you will only spot in few destinations in Asia) + 4 L-1011 (retired) and forgetting all the wide bodies that fly major international destinations more people will relate to (77W, 789) and some more iconic ANA aircrafts than the 78X like the 772, 773 or even 763.

And again, regarding NG alternative for ANA, Phoenix use inaccurate colors (especially the lighter blue) on older moulds standing far behind competition (especially since NG updated their 777). JC wings has accurate colors for ANA but they don’t care about their collectors suggestions. They prefer lying by telling us ANA lawyer threatens them… to announce a random 737 special livery the next month. They will surely wait till ANA retire these aircrafts in the next 2-3 decades like they did with JAL.

The last alternative would be AV400, while we are still waiting for the first previews of the 77Ws announced two years ago…

 

[YesterAirlines]

I never said they couldn’t do what they wanted as a company. They can continue to churn out 99% Asian models for the next decade if it suits them, but they need to stop with all the marketing crap and gimmicks if they can’t deliver.

I agree with you here

Stating that they’ve been trying to work with collectors but fell short due to a few entitled ones is a stretch. They fell short because they bit off way more than they could chew.

I agree here too but they have aimed high, brought a new level of accuracy and engagement to the hobby so it just seems a bit mean to constantly give them a hard time. I mean what would 400 scale be like without NG? I guess I look at it as even if they have done lots of annoying things I am still massively grateful that they exist and for all the good stuff they have done. They have built up sufficient goodwill that I can forgive the mis-steps mostly

 

[YesterAirlines]

The problem is not ANA not releasing the models we want (which is another problem). It is NG releasing 4 regular 78X (which is again a basic aircraft you will only spot in few destinations in Asia) + 4 L-1011 (retired) and forgetting all the wide bodies that fly major international destinations more people will relate to (77W, 789) and some more iconic ANA aircrafts than the 78X like the 772, 773 or even 763.

But if you treat the 78X and L-1011 as 2 releases and not 8 because they almost certainly should be seen that way from a production standpoint then your point rather disappears. As for the other aircraft that just becomes the usual 'they aren't making the models I want' argument that everyone makes about their favourite wishlist models - which I might add is why the wishlist system exists in the first place.

And again, regarding NG alternative for ANA, Phoenix use inaccurate colors (especially the lighter blue) on older moulds standing far behind competition (especially since NG updated their 777). JC wings has accurate colors for ANA but they don’t care about their collectors suggestions. They prefer lying by telling us ANA lawyer threatens them… to announce a random 737 special livery the next month. They will surely wait till ANA retire these aircrafts in the next 2-3 decades like they did with JAL.

The last alternative would be AV400, while we are still waiting for the first previews of the 77Ws announced two years ago…

Well I guess you're just lucky you have NG then so maybe people should cut them some slack and appreciate that if everyone else is so rubbish.

 

[777-300ER]

But if you treat the 78X and L-1011 as 2 releases and not 8 because they almost certainly should be seen that way from a production standpoint then your point rather disappears.

Why would my point disappear?

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

Well I ended up pre-ordering 6 from this month's set. And all within my primary criteria.

So yes while I'm eager to see certain models from NG, I have never really complained about their release sets.

I know eventually we'll see the CRP wishes - it's taking a while but it's only been 8-9 months .

 

[nb.aviation]

New Future Release

 

[YesterAirlines]

Why would my point disappear?

Because your point is the usual 'oh look NG make all these duplicate releases isn't it bad' as opposed to the way you should see it 'NG is splitting a production batch into 3 or 4 giving collectors options and saving themselves money'. Plus when you look at it they have made as many NH models as they have made any other airlines as I said before and proved with stats.

So basically you r point is yet again 'they don't make the models I want' which is rubbish. Plus you have a bizarre love for different configuration models that nobody else gives a monkey's about.

 

[ghqv2988]

Because your point is the usual 'oh look NG make all these duplicate releases isn't it bad' as opposed to the way you should see it 'NG is splitting a production batch into 3 or 4 giving collectors options and saving themselves money'. Plus when you look at it they have made as many NH models as they have made any other airlines as I said before and proved with stats.

So basically you r point is yet again 'they don't make the models I want' which is rubbish. Plus you have a bizarre love for different configuration models that nobody else gives a monkey's about.

As a mod you’re stepping a little out of line and getting personal. Some people do care about configs, some more than others. Regardless there’s no need to gang up on anyone for their preferences. Just my two cents.

 

[JJ Skippy]

As a mod you’re stepping a little out of line and getting personal. Some people do care about configs, some more than others. Regardless there’s no need to gang up on anyone for their preferences. Just my two cents.

Agreed. We all love collecting model airplanes in some way, and while this thread has a near-universal consensus about NG for this release, most of us have found at least one or two planes to buy.

 

[CM Aviation]

Not at all, trolling people who are salty about what NG releases is quite fun.

Let's keep it civil here; we know how to comply with the rules. No trolling, please. Thank you.

 

[swagninja84]

Let's keep it civil here; we know how to comply with the rules. No trolling, please. Thank you.

Where does it say that?
It's not a personal attack, slander, defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, or spam.

I can't help it if the facts do not align with people's feelings, and that offends them.

 

[CM Aviation]

Where does it say that?
It's not a personal attack, slander, defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, or spam.

I can't help it if the facts do not align with people's feelings, and that offends them.

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Trolling is hateful, end of story.

 

[CM Aviation]

Because your point is the usual 'oh look NG make all these duplicate releases isn't it bad' as opposed to the way you should see it 'NG is splitting a production batch into 3 or 4 giving collectors options and saving themselves money'. Plus when you look at it they have made as many NH models as they have made any other airlines as I said before and proved with stats.

So basically you r point is yet again 'they don't make the models I want' which is rubbish. Plus you have a bizarre love for different configuration models that nobody else gives a monkey's about.

Let's be kinder on the wording here - you don't have to agree with his point, but you certainly don't need to call it "rubbish".

 

[ghqv2988]

Where does it say that?
It's not a personal attack, slander, defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, or spam.

I can't help it if the facts do not align with people's feelings, and that offends them.

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Read the first three rules. They’re in all caps. Even a 1st grader couldn’t miss them.