Boeing_3019
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I can take that back nowNo 767, so many B and N regs again. At least some HL, but PLEASE SOME EUROPEANS
I can take that back nowNo 767, so many B and N regs again. At least some HL, but PLEASE SOME EUROPEANS
Amazingly NG listened to their social media comments and added that European and UAE hint.
As I understand it they have moved to exactly that model. The models are pre-made before the announcement or at the same time. It makes sense but it means errors are harder to fix. I assume they are gradually making models then announcing them afterwards. I suspect this was partly because they were so heavily criticised for delayed models in the past.I think this comment brings up an interesting possibility.
Running off the assumption that these additions to the hints are a result of poor reception to the upcoming release, it implies that whatever they're adding is "ready to go" (already produced, ready to produce), a very short-notice decision. It would then be likely that they have other models that are "ready", perhaps more of the wishlist items.
This is just speculation, but I think it is good food for thought. Why wait for the community to respond negatively to a release before adding diversity that could easily have been part of the original set of hints?
P.S- European narrowbodies are always welcome!
KE 359s were being painted in early March, likely ready by April at the latest, but announced over a month later and released another month thereafter. They definitely have yet-unannounced stuff ready to go at any given time.It would then be likely that they have other models that are "ready", perhaps more of the wishlist items.
I think this comment brings up an interesting possibility.
Running off the assumption that these additions to the hints are a result of poor reception to the upcoming release, it implies that whatever they're adding is "ready to go" (already produced, ready to produce), a very short-notice decision. It would then be likely that they have other models that are "ready", perhaps more of the wishlist items.
This is just speculation, but I think it is good food for thought. Why wait for the community to respond negatively to a release before adding diversity that could easily have been part of the original set of hints?
P.S- European narrowbodies are always welcome!
You're probably right. The process from artwork design to model completion is at best 2-3 months and with many brands more like 6-8. They may well have a stockpile of already made Ns but they may have cancelled them before the production started. Impossible to say.*speculation alert, Richard or whomever is in the know can correct me*
I also believe this may blend at least gently into the tarrifs as well. They may realize a lot of european models sell well in the US and don’t want to put good models out there that will potentially be blocked/delayed by shipping/economic troubles, causing more havoc for the brand reputation. This may be a “we have these “ready to go” and have more on the way but we’re waiting for things to settle more”. Doesn’t each individual plane take a few months to really get properly made?
That would make a lot of things regarding the release process take months to get going the right way. Just because the main tarrif issue happened about a month ago or so now, it’ll take a few more months at least for things to fully let the dust settle…and things still aren’t even fully settled yet all in all. Plus if these stick around, they have to guage how this affects the hobby long term. Hence why I say to be patient for these next few months. If (especially) by 2026 the releases still look like this and economically things haven’t gotten worse here in the states, then panic away imo.
I still think communication on what’s really happening would be generally appreciated though, especially seeing how their IG comment sections look right now. A proper statement regarding it may help them in the long run. It could be a simple IG or wechat or whatever they want to use, just a small paragraph explaining what’s going on.
You clearly don't watch my JC videos then! They get the same mould criticism that GJ does. I equally don't see people criticise JC, GJ, AV, PA, PH - their focus always seems to be on NG.
It isn't bias if it is true! Also you originally accused me of bias because I compared GJ's output this year to NGs. However later on I'm told that choosing preference in releases is subjective. You can't have it both ways. My purchasing history is entirely relevant to the accusation of bias and I never presented them as any kind of standard - they are merely what they are, proof that I don't find Gemini's releases interesting and that in my opinion 2 Tristars and 2 MD-80s are better than everything GJ has made this year.
Nobody's opinions are entirely objective - I don't honestly know what you're looking for here.
I’d imagine they have a big list of N/EU regs borderline as ready as they can be without fully investing into the production side just based on feeling. Going from what they used to do to what they’re doing now it’s such a big difference.You're probably right. The process from artwork design to model completion is at best 2-3 months and with many brands more like 6-8. They may well have a stockpile of already made Ns but they may have cancelled them before the production started. Impossible to say.
This exactly, it’s what people fail to realize. It’s only the beginning unfortunately. Why invest hundreds of thousands into making N regs (i’m lumping EU models in here generally too based on what I said earlier) if you more than likely can’t even get them over into the US to sell profitably. Obviously we here can get them regardless barring astronomical cost via outside source/intl shipping, but if the average buyer won’t see it in “local” stores they just won’t sell here. Which I imagine a lot of non US people wouldn’t buy a lot of US narrowbodies…If we’re “barely hanging on” generally speaking now…yeesh these next few months at minimum can be rough.On the tariff front. I just spoke to my contact with a major model distributor in the US. They are in disarray - just trying not to lose too much money. They can't make any. Most companies had in country stock (sometimes stockpiled in advance for this eventuality) but that is now running out. Their view is things are going to get really bad. They also can't get a straight answer out of their customs agent about what the tariffs are or will be next month. They've been told they may go up again on July 8th to 55%, but even at 30% their business isn't viable.
This may not impact NG that much as I'm not sure they use a distributor which makes things a bit easier, but anyone who thinks the tariff thing is over is I think in for a rude surprise. From what they are saying the problems haven't even begun yet. As I say this is out of the horse's mouth - it isn't my opinion.
NG don't engage directly anymore. Their IG isn't run by them directly. To be honest it probably wouldn't be in their interest to divulge this sort of competitive information anyway.
I understand, just disappointing. There’s no way NG HQ isn’t seeing the comments tho no? There’s gotta be some way they can get a message out if they needed to…which it could come to it based on consumer reaction in all comment sections I see.
Would love for the HL8xxx 772 to be HL8046 - saw that exact reg at LAX a year ago.Pretty sure the two HLs are these: 772 (7xxx) and 77F (8xxx). Both are popular choices, while OZ 772 isn’t even on the voting list.
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