Barison82
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Back in 2019 I posted this thread on DAC which went into some detail about the BA B.747-136/236 fleet, specifically about the livery variants and the various names they carried over the years. This was in the Centenary year for BA, when the 3 retro 747s were flying - sadly now history. In addition to looking at the real thing, a review of what had been made in 1:400 was also covered with ideas for future potential models, to fill in some gaps in this scale. I thought it would be worth copying this big thread into MAF, for reference here. The information could also be useful to modellers.
Fair Warning! This thread contains a lot of detail, and is text heavy. Skip if this is too dry and boring for you!
BA 'Classic' 747s have always been good sellers, both in Negus Red Tail and Landor c/s and they would surely be very popular if produced again for a number of reasons; to begin with, the original BB400 Red Tails (a set of 5 and the only ones made in 1:400) were released way back in January 2005 in very limited numbers; they are long since sold out and most examples now fetch high prices on the secondary market. As well as just re-releasing these, collectors would also benefit if some of the detail differences were also covered, as well as providing different registrations of the types. The BA 747 fleet reached many corners of the globe, just as the Pan Am & TWA fleets did, so they are fondly remembered by enthusiasts internationally, giving them a broad appeal in 1/400 scale.
The Centenary celebrations currently being promoted by British Airways this year, "100 years, 1919-2019" and the 3 Retro B.747-436s repainted into the old BOAC, Negus and Landor colours, will further expose these classic colour schemes to a younger generation of enthusiasts, who may not have been familiar with these schemes beforehand but also happen to collect 1:400 scale models.
BA Negus B.747-136/236 in 1:400:
In late January 2005 BB400 released 5 versions of BA 'Red Tails'; including:
https://www.diecastmodelaircraft.com/db/model/9363
https://www.diecastmodelaircraft.com/db/model/9371
and
https://www.diecastmodelaircraft.com/db/model/9365
(The other 2 were ''British Cargo'' and ''British Airtours'' versions, both -236s)
Re-releases of these would be welcome but there are some gaps that could still be filled. For example, no manufacturer has ever made a BA Negus B.747-136 in 1/400 scale which has 10 upper-deck windows, in both "British airways" and "British" titles, also with the black radome present.
G-AWNN, original 1974 Negus delivery c/s, minus name, with black radome:
Source: https://www.tasmanchester.com/747sman
I believe G-AWNN was the first -136 factory delivered to BA in the new Negus c/s from the original BOAC order.
Here it is again in September 1980, by which time it had been given a name, "Sebastian Cabot", after the Italian explorer (later renamed again to "City of Leicester" in the Landor era):
Source: https://www.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Boeing-747-136/1511581/L
G-AWNO was later given the name "Sir Francis Bacon" in late 1979. It was renamed a further 2 times later in it's career, during the Landor era (see further notes on this aircraft later):
She is seen here in original Negus delivery c/s at LHR in 1974, minus name and black radome:
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1078605
..and here in late 1979 after being named "Sir Francis Bacon":
Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_Airways_747_(5957055712)_(2).jpg
G-AWNH, in the revised 1980-81 Negus c/s carrying "British" titles and given the name "Sir Walter Raleigh":
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-AWNH
These complex namings/renamings by BA of their 747 fleet over the years have understandably caused much confusion to the manufacturers, creating mistakes - for example, BB400 got it wrong on their Negus -136 model G-AWNL by giving it the name ''Ennerdale Water''; in fact, that name was given much later on during the Landor era. When this aircraft was in Negus c/s, it carried the name "William Shakespeare" after 1981, a name which was previously carried by G-AWNK (this aircraft was sold to TWA as N17126 on 30.03.1981).
Other subjects in the Negus c/s could be the batch of B.747-136's delivered out of sequence from the original BOAC order during 1975-1976:
G-BBPU, 1975 delivery (minus name, without black radome):
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BBPU
...and seen here with revised "British" titles and black radome, now given the name "Henry Hudson" in 1982:
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BBPU
G-BDPV, 1976 delivery (minus name, with black radome) seen in 1979:
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BDPV
...and again here in 1981, with revised "British" titles and now given the name "City of Aberdeen":
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BDPV
Some BA Negus -236's had black radomes, too (not detailed by BB400 either):
G-BDXD in "British" titles, named "City of Plymouth", is seen in Birmingham on diversion, 24 February 1982:
Source:
Fair Warning! This thread contains a lot of detail, and is text heavy. Skip if this is too dry and boring for you!
BA 'Classic' 747s have always been good sellers, both in Negus Red Tail and Landor c/s and they would surely be very popular if produced again for a number of reasons; to begin with, the original BB400 Red Tails (a set of 5 and the only ones made in 1:400) were released way back in January 2005 in very limited numbers; they are long since sold out and most examples now fetch high prices on the secondary market. As well as just re-releasing these, collectors would also benefit if some of the detail differences were also covered, as well as providing different registrations of the types. The BA 747 fleet reached many corners of the globe, just as the Pan Am & TWA fleets did, so they are fondly remembered by enthusiasts internationally, giving them a broad appeal in 1/400 scale.
The Centenary celebrations currently being promoted by British Airways this year, "100 years, 1919-2019" and the 3 Retro B.747-436s repainted into the old BOAC, Negus and Landor colours, will further expose these classic colour schemes to a younger generation of enthusiasts, who may not have been familiar with these schemes beforehand but also happen to collect 1:400 scale models.
BA Negus B.747-136/236 in 1:400:
In late January 2005 BB400 released 5 versions of BA 'Red Tails'; including:
https://www.diecastmodelaircraft.com/db/model/9363
https://www.diecastmodelaircraft.com/db/model/9371
and
https://www.diecastmodelaircraft.com/db/model/9365
(The other 2 were ''British Cargo'' and ''British Airtours'' versions, both -236s)
Re-releases of these would be welcome but there are some gaps that could still be filled. For example, no manufacturer has ever made a BA Negus B.747-136 in 1/400 scale which has 10 upper-deck windows, in both "British airways" and "British" titles, also with the black radome present.
G-AWNN, original 1974 Negus delivery c/s, minus name, with black radome:
Source: https://www.tasmanchester.com/747sman
I believe G-AWNN was the first -136 factory delivered to BA in the new Negus c/s from the original BOAC order.
Here it is again in September 1980, by which time it had been given a name, "Sebastian Cabot", after the Italian explorer (later renamed again to "City of Leicester" in the Landor era):
Source: https://www.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Boeing-747-136/1511581/L
G-AWNO was later given the name "Sir Francis Bacon" in late 1979. It was renamed a further 2 times later in it's career, during the Landor era (see further notes on this aircraft later):
She is seen here in original Negus delivery c/s at LHR in 1974, minus name and black radome:
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1078605
..and here in late 1979 after being named "Sir Francis Bacon":
Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_Airways_747_(5957055712)_(2).jpg
G-AWNH, in the revised 1980-81 Negus c/s carrying "British" titles and given the name "Sir Walter Raleigh":
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-AWNH
These complex namings/renamings by BA of their 747 fleet over the years have understandably caused much confusion to the manufacturers, creating mistakes - for example, BB400 got it wrong on their Negus -136 model G-AWNL by giving it the name ''Ennerdale Water''; in fact, that name was given much later on during the Landor era. When this aircraft was in Negus c/s, it carried the name "William Shakespeare" after 1981, a name which was previously carried by G-AWNK (this aircraft was sold to TWA as N17126 on 30.03.1981).
Other subjects in the Negus c/s could be the batch of B.747-136's delivered out of sequence from the original BOAC order during 1975-1976:
G-BBPU, 1975 delivery (minus name, without black radome):
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BBPU
...and seen here with revised "British" titles and black radome, now given the name "Henry Hudson" in 1982:
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BBPU
G-BDPV, 1976 delivery (minus name, with black radome) seen in 1979:
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BDPV
...and again here in 1981, with revised "British" titles and now given the name "City of Aberdeen":
Source: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-BDPV
Some BA Negus -236's had black radomes, too (not detailed by BB400 either):
G-BDXD in "British" titles, named "City of Plymouth", is seen in Birmingham on diversion, 24 February 1982:
Source:
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