GeminiJets 767-300 mould question

[planar]

Hey all:

I just purchased this GeminiJets Delta 767-300ER model (N195DN), described here:

GEMINIJETS DELTA B767-300W N195DN (Special Release) 1:400 Scale GJDAL1452X

Check out the deal on GEMINIJETS DELTA B767-300W N195DN (Special Release) 1:400 Scale GJDAL1452X at www.JetCollector.com

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and I'm trying to figure out which mould Gemini used for this particular model.

According the the Model Aircraft Database:

GeminiJets 1:400 Delta Air Lines Boeing 767-300 w/ Winglets GJDAL1452 | MADb

Model Aircraft Database

www.modelaircraftdatabase.com

the model is from January 2015, and

according to Richard Stretton, in his overview of 767-300 moulds:

Boeing 767-300 1:400 Scale Mould Review

A review of the moulds available in 1:400 scale die-casts for the Boeing 767-300

www.yesterdaysairlines.com

that early 2015 date seems to put the model within the time that Gemini was using a Phoenix mould for 767-300s with winglets.

But the model I purchased seems to use a cradle mould, and the Phoenix 2008-current mould has slot-in wings, right?

so does that suggest that the Gemini model that I own uses the later (as described on Yesterday's Airlines) GEMINI JETS / JC WINGS 1B (2010-IN USE) mould?

or would you still think that it uses the Phoenix mould?

Thanks for any information that you can provide!

 

[LeoMuse747]

Definitely not the Phoenix mould. This seems to be the current GJ/JC mould.

 

[abdulmohiuddin]

It seems to be using cradle mould for the 767-300 that Gemini still uses to this day. It is a good mould even being a cradle mould, no reason to worry

 

[MIAv8Diecast]

Excuse my ignorance but I have had the same question for a while that has perplexed me... Gemini's old 767-300 mold used to not have a wing seem which is odd considering the newer one does. Per the statement above, did Gemini used to use the Pheonix mold? If so, I would almost argue the Pheonix is superior...

 

[ghqv2988]

Excuse my ignorance but I have had the same question for a while that has perplexed me... Gemini's old 767-300 mold used to not have wing seem which is odd considering the newer one does. Per the statement above, did Gemini used to use the Pheonix mold? If so, I would almost argue the Pheonix is superior...

They did, although they may not have publicly announced it. GJ had released an AA chrome 763ER with winglets that has the identical shape and proportions to the recent Phoenix chrome AA 767 releases.

 

[MIAv8Diecast]

They did, although they may not have publicly announced it. GJ had released an AA chrome 763ER with winglets that has the identical shape and proportions to the recent Phoenix chrome AA 767 releases.

Super strange then that they settled for the current seemed mold as I feel that whatever faults the current Phoenix has (Which isn’t too many) is still the better option with the slot in wings.

 

[YesterAirlines]

Hey all:

I just purchased this GeminiJets Delta 767-300ER model (N195DN), described here:

GEMINIJETS DELTA B767-300W N195DN (Special Release) 1:400 Scale GJDAL1452X

Check out the deal on GEMINIJETS DELTA B767-300W N195DN (Special Release) 1:400 Scale GJDAL1452X at www.JetCollector.com

www.jetcollector.com

and I'm trying to figure out which mould Gemini used for this particular model.

According the the Model Aircraft Database:

GeminiJets 1:400 Delta Air Lines Boeing 767-300 w/ Winglets GJDAL1452 | MADb

Model Aircraft Database

www.modelaircraftdatabase.com

the model is from January 2015, and

according to Richard Stretton, in his overview of 767-300 moulds:

Boeing 767-300 1:400 Scale Mould Review

A review of the moulds available in 1:400 scale die-casts for the Boeing 767-300

www.yesterdaysairlines.com

that early 2015 date seems to put the model within the time that Gemini was using a Phoenix mould for 767-300s with winglets.

But the model I purchased seems to use a cradle mould, and the Phoenix 2008-current mould has slot-in wings, right?

so does that suggest that the Gemini model that I own uses the later (as described on Yesterday's Airlines) GEMINI JETS / JC WINGS 1B (2010-IN USE) mould?

or would you still think that it uses the Phoenix mould?

Thanks for any information that you can provide!

Sorry @planar I had seen your message and forgot about it! Yes if it has the seam line it is the Gemini mould. As I say in the mould review for the 767: 'it wasn't until 2015 that they added aerials and produced a version which also had winglets on it'. The model you have looks like it was the first release on the updated original mould as you can see in MADb that the previous release (GJUAL1396) used the Phoenix mould:



@MIAv8Diecast for sometime Gemini shared production facilities with Phoenix in the 2000s and as they didn't have a 767 with winglets used the Phoenix mould (it wasn't the only Phoenix mould they used). By 2015 production had switched entirely to the JC Wings factories and so they need a 767 with winglets of their own. Rather than creating a new mould they reverted to the old one with a modified wing for the wingletted versions.

 

[MIAv8Diecast]

Sorry @planar I had seen your message and forgot about it! Yes if it has the seam line it is the Gemini mould. As I say in the mould review for the 767: 'it wasn't until 2015 that they added aerials and produced a version which also had winglets on it'. The model you have looks like it was the first release on the updated original mould as you can see in MADb that the previous release (GJUAL1396) used the Phoenix mould:

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@MIAv8Diecast for sometime Gemini shared production facilities with Phoenix in the 2000s and as they didn't have a 767 with winglets used the Phoenix mould (it wasn't the only Phoenix mould they used). By 2015 production had switched entirely to the JC Wings factories and so they need a 767 with winglets of their own. Rather than creating a new mould they reverted to the old one with a modified wing for the wingletted versions.

Very interesting thank you for the insight!

 

[planar]

It seems to be using cradle mould for the 767-300 that Gemini still uses to this day. It is a good mould even being a cradle mould, no reason to worry

Thanks - I generally find cradle moulds to be preferable actually... ever since I purchased a Witty 747 and noticed the gap between the wing and the fuselage that cradle moulds don't have, I feel that cradle moulds provide a more accurate overall look to a model. Not in all cases, probably, but in the (few) models that I've collected. (I also prefer models without aerials, satnav domes, etc. - which I recognize just contradicts what I said about "more accurate", but I guess I've grown comfortable living with my bundle of contradictions.)

 

[planar]

Thanks all for the information and responses! I guess I was just lucky that Gemini updated its mould just in time to produce the Delta 767-300ER that I needed for my collection?! Anyway, I appreciate the opportunity to ask a question and get such helpful feedback. Just started collecting and just joined this forum (I've been reading for a while) yesterday so this was a great experience. Thanks again!