DAC Selective Post Deletions That Enable Abusers

[YesterAirlines]

As many of you already know DAC is a forum administered by people linked directly to GJ and AC with a grudge who have a direct interest in administering posts to suit the narrative they want to make - usually one of lies. I don't check it much anymore myself but I know there are a few on here who frequent it regularly.

This is very illustrative of Russell Epstein and Arinmuk's style of administration on DAC.

29/05/25: Someone posts a thread on DAC about the Patriot 767-400
01/06/25: The user Tris10&11 makes the post:



03/06/25: The user Tarquin Montague makes this abusive post about me - content that is both baseless and defamatory:



That posts sits unchallenged despite the clear lies within it for 10 days, ignored by the so-called admins.

Today Patriot joins DAC and rebuts the lies that have been allowed to sit on DAC for 10 days. They say:



Lo and behold within a few hours both posts are mysteriously deleted from the site.

This is what you get on DAC. Administrators who allow lies and abuse from users they know personally and support. People twisting the narrative to meet their own ends and kowtowing to people like Klein and Tarquin Montague.

As for the latter I may well post more about him in the coming days since he has been undertaking an illegal campaign of harrassment against me and my family.

So to set the record straight for all of you who may have seen the lie, but not the truth. There it is above - in clear language from Patriot Models themselves. Obviously speaking the truth and saying anything positive about me on DAC is not allowed, but defamation is just fine.

 

[ghqv2988]

No need to clarify the situation Richard. 98% of collectors know that you're a great guy. Those who know AK know that he has an explosive and unstable personality. I stand by you along with many others!

 

[LiveryCollector]

As much as you are right, I feel like this type of post does not add a lot of value to this part of the forum.

 

[MIAv8Diecast]

A few months back when I was deciding whether to start an account with DAC or MAF I was absolutely blown away by the blatant toxicity and nasty attitude toward others that went unchecked. This goes for several individuals associated with some of the biggest brands explicitly calling out people on a public forum and I won't name names because it goes without being said. I have been collecting since 2014 and have only socially gotten involved in the last 6 months and don't know any of these people personally, but I couldn't believe the behavior they were participating / allowing toward specific individuals given their close association with these brands. Truly shameful and good for you for sticking up for yourself.

 

[JJ Skippy]

As much as you are right, I feel like this type of post does not add a lot of value to this part of the forum.

Yeah, I don’t think it’s necessary to bring stuff like this from one forum to another. This isn’t even about model airplanes!

 

[YesterAirlines]

No need to clarify the situation Richard. 98% of collectors know that you're a great guy. Those who know AK know that he has an explosive and unstable personality. I stand by you along with many others!

Thank you. Sadly lots of people reading these other posts believe the lies and repeat them.

As much as you are right, I feel like this type of post does not add a lot of value to this part of the forum.

If people made these sorts of comments about you on public forums I am sure that you would want the truth aired and made apparent. That is what I am doing here - clearing my name. I am sure you would want to do exactly the same.

Yeah, I don’t think it’s necessary to bring stuff like this from one forum to another. This isn’t even about model airplanes!

Yes well you wouldn't JJ because you have a history of liking and supporting abusive comments made by people at DAC which is why I gave you a telling off, which got your knickers in a twist that time. I saw the comment you left on that thread that was just a cavalcade of abuse started by the moderators just to enable hatred from certain people. Was that about model airplanes? Didn't stop you airing your grievances did it? Double standard much...

 

[swagninja84]

keeping receipts LOL.

Didn't seem to have a problem with things here being posted over there.

 

[JJ Skippy]

Respectfully, what I’m trying to get at is there seems to be a violation of some forum rule here. As stated in the rules, there shouldn’t be any hateful content posted, and that is what I’m noticing in your reply. It won’t matter that it’s the truth if it’s to be conveyed in a hateful or offensive manner. Moderators should still be subject to the same rules as general members.

 

[YesterAirlines]

Respectfully, what I’m trying to get at is there seems to be a violation of some forum rule here. As stated in the rules, there shouldn’t be any hateful content posted, and that is what I’m noticing in your reply. It won’t matter that it’s the truth if it’s to be conveyed in a hateful or offensive manner. Moderators should still be subject to the same rules as general members.

Nothing posted is hateful or offensive. You are often quick to bring up forum rules when it works for you but I've never seen you say this on DAC. Nothing written here is breaking any rules and I don't see @LeoMuse747 having any issues. All I have done is literally rebut what you wrote and point out the double-standard you have set. Don't pretend you are being respectful and I am not. Your post is far more disrespectful.

Similarly I don't understand why me trying to clear my name of slurs and lies upsets you? Why does it?

 

[swagninja84]

Respectfully, what I’m trying to get at is there seems to be a violation of some forum rule here. As stated in the rules, there shouldn’t be any hateful content posted, and that is what I’m noticing in your reply. It won’t matter that it’s the truth if it’s to be conveyed in a hateful or offensive manner. Moderators should still be subject to the same rules as general members.

I see nothing hateful, just facts supported with receipts.

 

[abdulmohiuddin]

God I love the fact this model plane hobby has this much drama, who needs other hobbies

 

[planes_on_a_shelf]

This thread is extremely relevant, and yes it does concern model airplanes.

It does, because the unchecked toxicity at DAC concerns model airplanes, which inhibits any kind of serious, professional and meaningful engagement with this hobby - and the toxicity originates from vested interests of a certain few from a specific demography and geography that make these model airplanes.

@YesterAirlines is a well-known blogger on the hobby by now, and there's no questioning the contribution he's made to the hobby.
At the same time, he's also a large collector himself, as such a hobbyist and a consumer of the models that we also purchase, and as such he has by now established a level of integrity and fairness in his views on manufactures, their products, and the concerns and expectations of the consumer.
His independent voice fills a much needed void in this niche hobby, and he is extremely transparent on sponsorship or declaring review copies when he's received them from a manufacturer or store/brand.

The kind of serious and professional engagement we can have here, is amply supported by the great culture of knowledge sharing and insights that this forum allows for - given its independent nature, and the fact that there is a fair, independent reviewing and moderation mechanism, and that everyone here has an equal voice, and that knowledge sharing and pushing the quality and accuracy and the sheer capabilities of model making is the ultimate goal and achievement. And that allows such experts as @Phantom contribute here, and we get participants from all demographics and Geographies - we have community members from China here too - and I see a lot of racist abuse on DAC that goes unchecked, and gladly this forum is a safe space away from all of that.

I'm sure manufacturers also like being here as it allows for thus direct exchange with the collectorate. Our views comments observations become valuable for them as well, and it works both ways.

I wouldn't be active here if it were not for the fact that I feel safe here, and I feel heard, and seen.
This forum as such works positively towards a community - we may not know how we look or sound and who we really are, but our identities as community members is what keeps me coming back.

And I can state without doubt, that this safe space as a community forum, so rare in this world nowadays that's being ripped apart by hate and toxicity, can only happen because we have the kind of independent and mature moderators that we now do - @LeoMuse747 and @YesterAirlines - and it will only help to have someone from Asia and from Oz for us to really have true representation that is required in this community.

Yes we're talking about model airplanes, because commercial aviation binds the world together, is the thread that ignores divides, and allows the world to come closer together.

 

[Tropicalista]

Honestly I just ignore that forum, I have also leaved for the poor content and the one way thinking.

Maybe Richard is better if they have violated the laws star to act via legal way.

But I’m thinking that is more a personal question this.
I have also argue with some members in the past but of course I’m not expose like you.

 

[LiveryCollector]

If people made these sorts of comments about you on public forums I am sure that you would want the truth aired and made apparent. That is what I am doing here - clearing my name. I am sure you would want to do exactly the same.

Sure I would. However my point is the first reply that you got. 99% of people here know the craziness that is going on at DAC because of previous posts. So it's like trying to proof your innocence for a jury (read MAF members) who already know you are innocent and 2 months later do it again (because it won't be the last time given the state at DAC that something similar happens).

The only people who might have doubts are the new members here but I think there are better ways to inform them. Maybe some kind of note when they join or a separate informative thread that combines all the shenanigans.

 

[YesterAirlines]

Sure I would. However my point is the first reply that you got. 99% of people here know the craziness that is going on at DAC because of previous posts. So it's like trying to proof your innocence for a jury (read MAF members) who already know you are innocent and 2 months later do it again (because it won't be the last time given the state at DAC that something similar happens).

The only people who might have doubts are the new members here but I think there are better ways to inform them. Maybe some kind of note when they join or a separate informative thread that combines all the shenanigans.

The problem is there are a lot of new collectors who don't understand the situation both on MAF and other places. Facebook and Instagram aren't a very useful medium for this kind of thing and as you can see above there are still people even on MAF who prefer to support the offenders or blame me equally.

Repetition is important and matters. There needs to be a body of content showing that what is being said is wrong otherwise people will believe it. MAF isn't my forum. I don't think embedding the issues I face into MAF's very fabric would be very welcome. Ultimately this kind of thread serves a very useful purpose for multiple reasons.

You're right. If I posted everytime I was maligned on DAC that would be crazy, but this is the first time in several years I have brought it up and in this case it was for a very specific reason.

However I think my point has been made so as suggested by @LeoMuse747 let's lock this one before it attracts the wrong kind of people.