Don’t forget the McKinley Tariffs of the 1890s, which partly caused the Panic of 1893.
Are Tariffs Going to Kill 400 Scale?
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swagninja84
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Or a segment of the population have been brainwashed into thinking a person bankrupted casinos would some how make our country rich and "great" again.
1/400collector
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Can someone give a summary of the situation?
LachieHare
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Imagine how the people of Heard Island and McDonald Islands are feeling today with a tariff being slapped on them as well......wait......there's no people live there and there's no exports? Only an American could impose a tariff on an uninhabited island.
Hopefully it means there is more supply of high quality NG, Panda and Av400 to us collectors down under!
Hopefully it means there is more supply of high quality NG, Panda and Av400 to us collectors down under!
KL808
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- US President Trump slapped 20% Tariff on China on February
- Then he slapped another 34% on top of that in April
- He also closed at the same time the “de minimis” loop hole where shipments under $800usd got no duties.
So basically anything from China will get 54% duties.
LorenzoLommus
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So, if Mr. A orders a model from Shop X in China, the customs in U.S. will apply 54% tariffs on the model and hold the package until Mr. A pays the tariffs in order to take delivery?
How does the customs department collect the tariffs and how Mr. A going to pay for it before taking delivery? What are the procedures?
KL808
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Don’t quote me, but I believe they (customs) already know companies and they have an account with customs and they automatically get tacked on to a bill and they get an invoice each month.
Most of these packages are small (loophole) but numerous meaning all going to the same company. This will most likely change and they’ll be sending it by container. This might have implications with US orders being delayed (diecast). They may collect models from each month and divide containers by retailer then ship them to US once they are full to minimize shipping cost. Then when it gets to a certain port in US then it goes via road to the retailer.
In the UK any package over a certain value (about £130) gets automatically held by the carrier and an email and payment link is sent to the buyer. I assume something similar will happen in the US now. This isn't just at companies - as the text in my post says it is aimed at anyone buying from China and places like Shein, Temu etc And the suggestion is that it will be applied to a parcel of any value with the closing of the de minimus loophole.
Tropicalista
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Sorry for my question, maybe stupid, but if i buy a model (NG,JC,PH) and im Europe, this will not impact, or I’m missing something?
If you live in Europe, none of this should matter. If you live in the US, however, I believe that the tariffs apply based on the country of origin, not where you purchased it from. So, say I bought a model from a retailer in the UK, the country of origin is the last place where the model was “substantially transformed,” which is China. So it would be subject to the rules for parcels from China; no de minimis exemption, and $25-$50 per item fee.
Read the blogpost. The USA is clearly a major market for 400 scale (if not the largest). If sales tank in the US the impact on several 400 scale brands could be substantial. This isn't just about what you're paying, but also the literal viability of the market.
Rrrk
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Where do these people get the 3d printers, parts, and resin?
acaymeth47
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Well, it’s certainly going to be getting a lot more expensive than it already is…
Irish
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Lowkey haven’t spent much money on models lately as things have already been expensive enough. This surely will make it more suffering for this hobby and life is already getting harder as it is, so no hobby and more expensive groceries = very unhappy Sean!! Maybe exaggerating on no hobbies, thankfully as some of you know I still do planespotting, alongside some of my more niche hobbies (outdoor warning sirens, weather, and recently, fire alarms) which I wouldn’t be suprised talking orange ahh mf tariffs that stuff somehow lol. Hoping for the best these next four years, hoping the used market will be my saving grace!
squatchys_diecast_hangar
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More food for thought as we have also asked NG about the NG exchange program. As one of their exchange retailers if we are going to be tariffed/taxed on those (free) models, they have to actually put a value on them. We have told NG, that if that is happening, and we don’t see away around that, that we would be taken off as an exchange retailer. We can’t be held responsible for paying the tax on the so called free models, which really won’t be free at that point.
So we have asked the question and will be curious to see the response.
So we have asked the question and will be curious to see the response.
And for all the non-US collectors out there this is how US tariffs on China may push up the price of models outside the USA. The expectation is that shoe makers like Nike and Adidas will 'cross-subsidise' their pricing i.e. spread the price rises across the globe so they don't have to raise prices in the US as much as the tariffs would make them. If 400 scale brands do this too you'll see price rises across the board globally.
https://inews.co.uk/news/how-price-...4YgxbYZRGv_9wAR3wB2XT6nKGxdV9Un7-B7rgyaCdlvBO
https://inews.co.uk/news/how-price-...4YgxbYZRGv_9wAR3wB2XT6nKGxdV9Un7-B7rgyaCdlvBO
planes_on_a_shelf
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Wow
So essentially, the whole world will subsidise the US consumer lol - even the poorest nations in the world - subsidising the 'richest' and most powerful nation in the world.
This is Imperialism at its hilt - and now each US consumer will be culpable
No wonder CEOs are still playing golf with their fav Prez
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Hopefully it won't happen in 400 scale
Purpleplane
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Well, that's not as bad as I thought it would be.
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