Air India B787-8 crash

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Hi to all. Dramatic tragedy in India after an Air India B787-8 crashed sono after takeoff at Ahmedabad airport, route to London LGW, killing about 300 people among those onboard and those on the ground. Just a survivor, seat 11A, a British passenger.
Bird strike? Pilot error? Difficult to say. Images show the B787-8 trying to climb after takeoff, then crashing on the houses around the airport.
First major incident for the B787 Dreamliner.
R.I.P. to all the victims.
P.S. VT-ANB airframe.

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Purpleplane said:
Very sad. It looks to me like the flaps weren't set properly for takeoff...I could be wrong though.
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Without any speculation to respect the victims, this tragedy reminded me the flight Spanair MD-80 5022, crashing soon after an attempt of takeoff at Madrid airport: flaps 0° and not working alarm.
According to Flightradar24 there could be another mystery: the B787-8 started the takeoff run at mid-runway, just 1900 meters instead of 3300 meters. In fact, Reading the latest news, it seems that short takeoff run and no flaps (or early flap retraction) caused the missing takeoff.
 
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RIP to 241 victims and ground victims I agree with Pilot error sadly the flaps look in the upright position on CCTV.
 
Charter said:
Hi to all. Dramatic tragedy in India after an Air India B787-8 crashed sono after takeoff at Ahmedabad airport, route to London LHR, killing about 300 people among those onboard and those on the ground. Just a survivor, seat 11A, a British passenger.
Bird strike? Pilot error? Difficult to say. Images show the B787-8 trying to climb after takeoff, then crashing on the houses around the airport.
First major incident for the B787 Dreamliner.
R.I.P. to all the victims.
P.S. VT-ANB airframe.

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First of all, condolences to the families of the victims, this is a very tragic accident. I never thought a 787 would ever crash.

I watched the footage of the crash and the engines don't sound like it's at full power and the landing gear was failing to retract. It's seen in this position:
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Boeing_3019 said:
First of all, condolences to the families of the victims, this is a very tragic accident. I never thought a 787 would ever crash.

I watched the footage of the crash and the engines don't sound like it's at full power and the landing gear was failing to retract. It's seen in this position:
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Weighed it down maybe hydraulic issues and the pilots didn’t have enough time until the quick impact maybe also missed maintenance
 
Probably dual engine failure which resulted in the RAT being released
+ it lost hydraulics which means it couldn’t raise the landing gear
 
The landing gear may have also been down to cool the breaks, as the temperature at Ahmedabad International at the time of the crash was around 40 degrees Celsius. I've seen Jetstar do that multiple times during the Australian Summer
 
The_SingingAvgeek said:
The landing gear may have also been down to cool the breaks, as the temperature at Ahmedabad International at the time of the crash was around 40 degrees Celsius. I've seen Jetstar do that multiple times during the Australian Summer
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It was also tilted forward..
 
Landing gears probably stayed down because the crew was probably focused in the loss of climb and didn't had time to retract them, I guess.
 
About Air India B787-8 crash of a month ago, by Hindustantimes.com:

⦁ Bloomberg, quoting officials aware of the matter, said that the investigation is also looking into the movement of fuel control switches that sit in the center console of the cockpit. It is unclear whether the pilots toggled the switches, either inadvertently or intentionally.

⦁ The investigators haven't found any evidence that would suggest the crash was caused by a design or mechanical problem with the Boeing aircraft or the GE engines, the report added.

So it seems that the the fuel control switches of both engines have been turned off, because of an error or because of a killing will.
 
The preliminary report was released today. The switches were flipped one after the other to the cutoff position, one pilot asks the other why he did that, the other pilot says he didn't, the switches are flipped back to the run position. But there was not enough altitude or time to make a recovery. The most likely explanation is that one of the pilots did it intentionally, motive currently unknown, and one of them is lying to each other in the conversation. I don't think it is plausible that they were inadvertently switched, given the design, so that seems like the most likely case unless there is some bizarre and presently inconceivable situation where there is a mechanical situation leading to both switches consecutively shutting off on their own.
 
L1011TriStar said:
The preliminary report was released today. The switches were flipped one after the other to the cutoff position, one pilot asks the other why he did that, the other pilot says he didn't, the switches are flipped back to the run position. But there was not enough altitude or time to make a recovery. The most likely explanation is that one of the pilots did it intentionally, motive currently unknown, and one of them is lying to each other in the conversation. I don't think it is plausible that they were inadvertently switched, given the design, so that seems like the most likely case unless there is some bizarre and presently inconceivable situation where there is a mechanical situation leading to both switches consecutively shutting off on their own.
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If it ends up with pilot error being at the centre of this, Air India might have some serious investigations on them.
 
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