Model Review - Air Canada Express DHC-8-300 by 3D Design Deck

YesterAirlines

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While 400 scale is still predominantly diecast, 3D printing has come on leaps and bounds. 3D Design Deck is the first brand to productionise printed models with UV printed liveries on them, and have them sold at retailers. I've been keeping an eye on their output for a while and recent release sets have shown a quantum leap in quality that brings these 3D printed models close to the quality levels of diecast. It remains to be seen how accepting collectors are of non-metal models but I think that already these are worthy additions to the scale.


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This model looks awesome! The cockpit windows were much improved now, when compared to their older "Jazz" releases, which had really odd windows. The only big drawback for me is the too small main gear size. Anyway, fantastic to see a nice 3D printed model like this, and even with spinning props! :cool:

Hope to see other models coming to life at some point.
Brasilia would be so cool :) or a Dash 7, since they're Canadians!
 
While 400 scale is still predominantly diecast, 3D printing has come on leaps and bounds. 3D Design Deck is the first brand to productionise printed models with UV printed liveries on them, and have them sold at retailers. I've been keeping an eye on their output for a while and recent release sets have shown a quantum leap in quality that brings these 3D printed models close to the quality levels of diecast. It remains to be seen how accepting collectors are of non-metal models but I think that already these are worthy additions to the scale.


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Awesome! I agree on the vertical stabilizer, needs some tweaking. And the tire size. Other than that it looks pretty good. Perhaps the props in feathered position would be good. I wonder why no diecast version of the -300 has ever been made. There are so many airlines that could be made.

Do you have any direct contact with the creator of this model? Hopefully your review will make him notice the issues and improve the model.
 
Awesome! I agree on the vertical stabilizer, needs some tweaking. And the tire size. Other than that it looks pretty good. Perhaps the props in feathered position would be good. I wonder why no diecast version of the -300 has ever been made. There are so many airlines that could be made.

Do you have any direct contact with the creator of this model? Hopefully your review will make him notice the issues and improve the model.
I have had one email with him but that is all. Hopefully he sees the review and takes note as you say
 
The model looks awesome, and definitely within my criteria, however those main gear tyres are troubling. This throws off the overall proportions and accuracy for me.

Still, impressive the level of quality of 3D design. Hopefully they will make corrections for future releases. Truly a nice stop gate until NG begins the age of Props...

Cheers for the review mate.
 
Is there a way to suggest a DC-9-10 as a future release? I've seen several videos on YouTube with techniques for simulating a bare metal finish on plastic that looks every bit as good as diecast. My personal favorite actually involves a women's nail product (it's actually a powder, believe it or not) that produces a very nice chrome finish that can be decaled over just like paint. A technique like this would produce some very nice looking wings and engines, in addition to bare metal liveries such as Eastern.

Here is the video.
The nail powder technique starts around the 6 minute mark.
 
Is there a way to suggest a DC-9-10 as a future release? I've seen several videos on YouTube with techniques for simulating a bare metal finish on plastic that looks every bit as good as diecast. My personal favorite actually involves a women's nail product (it's actually a powder, believe it or not) that produces a very nice chrome finish that can be decaled over just like paint. A technique like this would produce some very nice looking wings and engines, in addition to bare metal liveries such as Eastern.

Here is the video.
The nail powder technique starts around the 6 minute mark.

Bare metal (chrome like mirror) finishes on printed objects is kind of top league as this requires a super smooth surface. That's exactly not what a 3D-printer delivers as it prints layers.
Of course, you could smoothen the surface (solvent fume, sanding or excessive priming) - but all of these methods also kill potential fine detail that might be there after printing. 20µm of layer doesn't sound much, but this could well equal the width of a panel line in this scale. I'm not saying it isn't doable, but I'd go a different - old fashioned - way then: print one on a 3D-system, smoothen and refine until satisfied and thereafter use it as a master for a resin mould based on which you do your release output. Oh I so wish I'd have the time for doing all this kind of stuff today.

Talking about metal finishes on resin, here's - just for the fun of it - stuff from one of my scrap boxes. A >20 years old resin copy of a DW DC-10's CF6-50 engine with a custom made pylon, painted with the good old Testors Metalizers - this was just a quick, unprimed prototype which quite well shows the problems of insufficient surface smoothing. Todays high def. metal paints like Alclad II would perform MUCH better IF the surface would be perfected.
20240828_175807 by Alexander Kern, auf Flickr
 
Oh and I sure think a DC-9-10 deserves a quality, tampo printed diecast product(y)
We just need to make those new Chinese startups aware of stuff that's beyond Neos and MAXes.
 
Bare metal (chrome like mirror) finishes on printed objects is kind of top league as this requires a super smooth surface. That's exactly not what a 3D-printer delivers as it prints layers.
Of course, you could smoothen the surface (solvent fume, sanding or excessive priming) - but all of these methods also kill potential fine detail that might be there after printing. 20µm of layer doesn't sound much, but this could well equal the width of a panel line in this scale. I'm not saying it isn't doable, but I'd go a different - old fashioned - way then: print one on a 3D-system, smoothen and refine until satisfied and thereafter use it as a master for a resin mould based on which you do your release output. Oh I so wish I'd have the time for doing all this kind of stuff today.

Talking about metal finishes on resin, here's - just for the fun of it - stuff from one of my scrap boxes. A >20 years old resin copy of a DW DC-10's CF6-50 engine with a custom made pylon, painted with the good old Testors Metalizers - this was just a quick, unprimed prototype which quite well shows the problems of insufficient surface smoothing. Todays high def. metal paints like Alclad II would perform MUCH better IF the surface would be perfected.
20240828_175807 by Alexander Kern, auf Flickr
And a resin mold would allow for faster mass production than individually printing each copy. If you want to get super fancy, make several molds and use them all at the same time.
 
Oh and I sure think a DC-9-10 deserves a quality, tampo printed diecast product(y)
We just need to make those new Chinese startups aware of stuff that's beyond Neos and MAXes.
Absolutely, it does! I wish there were enough of us on here to where we could all go in together and start our own model company and produce what we want, to our standards.
 
Awesome! I agree on the vertical stabilizer, needs some tweaking. And the tire size. Other than that it looks pretty good. Perhaps the props in feathered position would be good. I wonder why no diecast version of the -300 has ever been made. There are so many airlines that could be made.

Do you have any direct contact with the creator of this model? Hopefully your review will make him notice the issues and improve the model.
I hear you, the stabelizor is a bit tricky as it needs to be a seperate piece that needs sanding, painting, and the black line. Currently the stabelizor has had 14 updates in how it’s printed to achieve that look there.

The once thing that gets me personally are the tires. It’s the one thing I dislike on my q series models. We looked for months for a tire supplier but we can’t find tires that small with the specific dimensions we need. If we chose to get someone to custom produce them the costs are too high and our productions right now are too small.

Im waiting and in hopefully 4-6 months our production numbers will increase to a point where we can get more specific pieces for each release.
 
While 400 scale is still predominantly diecast, 3D printing has come on leaps and bounds. 3D Design Deck is the first brand to productionise printed models with UV printed liveries on them, and have them sold at retailers. I've been keeping an eye on their output for a while and recent release sets have shown a quantum leap in quality that brings these 3D printed models close to the quality levels of diecast. It remains to be seen how accepting collectors are of non-metal models but I think that already these are worthy additions to the scale.


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Since this model was produced in April we have made many changes.

We modified the jig for the uv printer and now our tails are far sharper than the model you received.

We also removed the seam on the fuselage which allowed us to add a few more antennas and achieve a more evenly shaped fuselage.
 
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